Film Theory: Spiderman vs Spiderman Battle Royale!

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  • The Film Theorists
    The Film Theorists   1 months back

    Since a lot of people are asking about the Far From Home finale, two things we factored in but didn't expressly write into the episode:

    1. Across BOTH MCU movies, Peter's use of the Spider Sense is inconsistent, just like the other Spidermen. Writers tend to "forget" that it exists when they need to put Spider-Man in danger, and so sure, Tom Holland ends the movie having "mastered" the sense, but we have no evidence that he'll be able to continue using it from this point forward (and we guessed he probably won't, because it'll make him too OP if he can predict EVERY move headed his way). We have to go by what we've seen...and his sense up until the end of FFH hasn't been great.
    2. Yes, he "masters" the Spider Sense at the end, but is it giving him faster reactions times? He's able to SEE THROUGH THE ILLUSIONS of Mysterio...which helps him avoid bullets and avoid the gun...but his REACTION TIME is still on par with the other Spidermen (at least when it comes to avoiding LOTS of bullets, which they all can do). It gave him better intuition. So again, largely a wash when compared to the other portrayals of the character.


    Don't get me wrong...Tom Holland is my FAVORITE Spider-Man. But FFH didn't give us the confidence that the Spider Sense was that much better than anyone else's. As such, when it comes to power set, in our estimation, Miles in Spiderverse still wins.


    But like I said, it's a theory. There are TONS of ways to analyze the question. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on the issue -- keep 'em coming!

    • Molten Inferno
      Molten Inferno  12 hours back

      what should happen if all the spidermen go into a all v all battle, tony stark shows up and immediately make tom Holland win

    • KingOne
      KingOne  3 days back

      You are just a joke. Did you just lump in Tom Holland's Spidey with all these fodder just because ? Tobey=Tom since when ? What the hel ltype of stupid fallac y is this ? You are a clown.

    • KingOne
      KingOne  3 days back

      What the hell type of nonsense is this ? Did you just negate a FEAT OF SPIDEY SENSE FOR TOM ? Your whole video becomes creditless right there. I knew you'd mess up you clown.

    • KingOne
      KingOne  3 days back

      Miles ? Haha Tom Holland's Spidey one shots him. Tom's Spidey overpowered Cull Obsidian easily everytime they met and that guy is even waaay stronger than Venom's strongest version nope.

    • Rawdha Elshazly
      Rawdha Elshazly  5 days back

      tom holland is your favorite spiderman, taste :)

  • Broccoli*
    Broccoli*  2 hours back

    What about in Civil War when he dodges the sign The winter soldier Chucks at him (yeah it ain't one of the Spider-man movies but he did use Infinity War)

    • Ak Infinity diamond
      Ak Infinity diamond  10 hours back

      Yea but remember that miles is the only one to have a spider teacher

      • Liam Of Liverpool
        Liam Of Liverpool  17 hours back

        Iron spider would hammer everyone

        • julian12465
          julian12465  21 hours back

          13:20

          Is this a reference to Spider-Man 1?

          “What’s your name, kid?”
          “The human spider.”
          “What, come on, that’s the best ya got?”

          • Crafter0035
            Crafter0035  1 days back

            [SPOILER WARNING]





            Mat, you forgot the final battle scene in far from home where peter uses his spider sense to get past the hollograms

            • Fortnut :v Gamer :v
              Fortnut :v Gamer :v  1 days back

              What about the drones destroyed in spider man far from home by Spider-Man using only his spider tingle

              And the bullets Andrew garfield's Spider-Man avoided

              • takeru91
                takeru91  1 days back

                Why do I have a feeling I've already watched this video before but like years ago?

                • Lilly Treva
                  Lilly Treva  1 days back

                  Iirc, in the comics, can't miles shoot naturally electric webbing AND go invisible? Just taking that into account he beats the others pretty clearly

                  • Double A
                    Double A  2 days back

                    Can Tom Holland were his far from home suit

                    • Jo
                      Jo  2 days back

                      Id actually really like to see Miles against the others in the other categories tho.. like his webs or his strength.. also, I feel there should have been an inteligence category as that can play into how likely it is for one to come up with a plan to beat another, even if that version had the upper hand.. i mean, Miles turning invisible is massive but TH-spiderman has shown he can fight ‘blind’ and he Miles has the electricity shock thing but how fast is it, considering AG-spiderman has fought that.. im not saying Miles wouldnt win cos he may still very much have.. just didnt feel this was as fair and accurate of a set up..

                      • Desk Milk
                        Desk Milk  2 days back

                        Um you mean pizza man

                        • Hide8
                          Hide8  3 days back

                          Actually the strongest Spider-Man shows up at the end of spider verse Spider-Man 2099 Miguel O’Hara and it glimpses at a new movie lol probably something doing with time traveling and saving the future from the like weird Spider-Man apocalypse with like humans and spider genetically mutated together lol in a creepy way... that or ultimate spider......but that’s just my theory... there’s probably Spider-Man god that’s stronger than than all.

                          • Spencer Ricker
                            Spencer Ricker  3 days back

                            This video hasn't aged well XD

                            • Samantha Trumble
                              Samantha Trumble  3 days back

                              You forgot the best category. Smack talk

                              • Andi Landgren
                                Andi Landgren  3 days back

                                No one:

                                The comment section: MiLeS cAn SaY tHe N wOrD

                                • raiiir stuff
                                  raiiir stuff  3 days back

                                  Toby stopped a train going 120 you low balled his train stopping feat by a long shot, and Tom didn't even hold the ferry together that much he spun webs to hold it together before just pulling the front of it unlike Toby stopping the full force of that train

                                  • I’m Autistic
                                    I’m Autistic  3 days back

                                    Miles can say the n word tho

                                    • Jdhhdjdjd Hsueudjz
                                      Jdhhdjdjd Hsueudjz  3 days back

                                      And miles

                                      • Jdhhdjdjd Hsueudjz
                                        Jdhhdjdjd Hsueudjz  3 days back

                                        Why am I not surprised that Tom Holland

                                        • KingOne
                                          KingOne  3 days back

                                          You are just a joke. Did you just lump in Tom Holland's Spidey with all these fodder just because ? Tobey=Tom since when ? What the hel ltype of stupid fallac y is this ? You are a clown.

                                          • Dani Babi
                                            Dani Babi  3 days back

                                            "MCUS GOLDEN BOY" cri

                                            • Terak
                                              Terak  3 days back

                                              Regarding the spider sense, I feel like you are selling Tom Holland's version short.
                                              Yes, anyone could look out the window and see the ship. The sense doesn't tell him that he can SEE something. It tells him there's a threat. He detected the ship, with his spider sense, from MILES away. In a more close range sense, he was aware of the Guardians' approach about half a minute before they actually started their attack.

                                              • neon warrior
                                                neon warrior  4 days back

                                                Like = Tom Holland
                                                Comment = Andrew Garfield
                                                Like my reply to this comment = Tobey Maguire

                                                • Nathan Johnson
                                                  Nathan Johnson  4 days back

                                                  No Spider Pig wins.

                                                  • Deathly Gaming
                                                    Deathly Gaming  4 days back

                                                    😂ahhhh funny as shit. Myles would get clapped if it was an actual “fight.”

                                                    • ViscousSnake
                                                      ViscousSnake  4 days back

                                                      Miguel O'hara (Spider-Man 2099) would destroy Miles Morales. Thumbs Down.

                                                      • caitlin buggle
                                                        caitlin buggle  4 days back

                                                        Mat pat : lets clarify what this vidio is and isn't
                                                        Me : is just a Spiderman contest isn't sponsored by fortnite

                                                        • Aleksandar Kokovic
                                                          Aleksandar Kokovic  5 days back

                                                          I just knew it

                                                          • Tanner Barnes
                                                            Tanner Barnes  5 days back

                                                            So MatPat, why didn't you factor Blonde Peter into this fight? It's not like he doesn't have feats.
                                                            -We see him knock out Green Goblin with a punch at least once, which has no comparable feats in the movie. Green Goblin gets back up pretty quick, sure, but that's realistic for a concussion.
                                                            -He reverses the trajectory and velocity of an incoming sedan, sending it flying right on top of Dr. Octopus, who threw it in the first place. (Again, with a single punch.)
                                                            -He casually stops the centrifuge type thing on the collider, by strongarming a piece of metal that appears to be roughly the same size and shape as a jet engine. There seem to be around 6-8 of these things on the centrifuge, and he stops all that mass with one arm, and seems to be holding himself in place with just his sticking ability.
                                                            -He infiltrated Alchemax all on his own, and since there is no sign or talk of break-ins that we see, it could be inferred that he went undetected. (Something that Spider-Gwen, who you also failed to mention, also did. Seriously, if we can mention Miles, we should mention Gwen. She's the only character in the movie that beats Doc Ock in solo combat, albeit by surprise.)
                                                            -He keeps up with Prowler in close combat, even though Prowler was unexpected. For reference, Prowler later puts Peter B in a stalemate, and he does it a whole lot quicker than he did with Blondie.
                                                            -He has 10 years of experience. Only Peter B is confirmed to have been at this longer.
                                                            In addition to this, he also has the train stopping feat, and the glorious Spider-Man 3 dance.

                                                            • Hunter Aroksaar
                                                              Hunter Aroksaar  5 days back

                                                              Ok matpat I️ have 2 aces that completely debunk the fact miles would win, 1 tom holland Spider-Man has an instant kill mode which we only see used once and only with the robotic arms and we see it tear through the outriders we don’t even see Tom Holland do anything and 2 yes miles can turn invisible but as seen in far from home spoilers btw Tom holland spider man knows where the drones are coming and how to attack them at perfect times WITH HIS EYES CLOSED not to mention he KNEW Quentin was going to try and shoot him by pulling one last trick BEFORE HE EVEN SAW QUENTIN so Tom Holland spider man would win miles morales would be a close second tobey would be third and Andrew would be fourth

                                                              • BeenGaming
                                                                BeenGaming  5 days back

                                                                also miles invisibility didn’t set off the spider sense of any of the spider people

                                                                • raruto 23
                                                                  raruto 23  5 days back

                                                                  Im cool with that im cool with that go miles

                                                                  • Shadowfom
                                                                    Shadowfom  5 days back

                                                                    You didn’t have a video idea did you
                                                                    Because it’s not a theory

                                                                    • Different Me
                                                                      Different Me  5 days back

                                                                      my commen sense tingles are telling me THAT TOM HOLLAND IS THE BEST SPIDEY EASILY probably it would be like naruto v sasauge just with miles and mcu peter

                                                                      • Tapanin sekoilut
                                                                        Tapanin sekoilut  5 days back

                                                                        SAM RAIMI FOREVER

                                                                        • I. Lyons
                                                                          I. Lyons  5 days back

                                                                          You were using The Amazing Spider-Man and not tobey Maguire spider man

                                                                          Spoilers ahead!





                                                                          Tobey Maguire spider man died in the beginning of the movie. This is a vital mistake

                                                                          • Serena Michael
                                                                            Serena Michael  6 days back

                                                                            Spider man homecoming
                                                                            Annabelle comes home
                                                                            Spider far from home

                                                                            I don't like spiderman I just wanted to do this

                                                                            • VADAPAKA
                                                                              VADAPAKA  6 days back

                                                                              None of them are close to late teen Miles Morales.

                                                                            • Mike Yao
                                                                              Mike Yao  6 days back

                                                                              OBJECTION!
                                                                              Why is “Witty Banter with Villains” not a category?

                                                                              • tedydadestroyer 123
                                                                                tedydadestroyer 123  7 days back

                                                                                What about the Japanese spider man???

                                                                              • Idiot on the internet.

                                                                                Now tom’s spidey defeinitely wins after far from home

                                                                                • Landen Long
                                                                                  Landen Long  7 days back

                                                                                  Did you notice that the numbers were mixed up with each other in the trophy for webs

                                                                                  • TartS MarSh
                                                                                    TartS MarSh  7 days back

                                                                                    Toby is the best In my opinion.

                                                                                    • Julian Lam
                                                                                      Julian Lam  7 days back

                                                                                      How ironic the learner is the strongest

                                                                                      • Trex 2500
                                                                                        Trex 2500  1 weeks back

                                                                                        Miles would‘not be stronger than peter. Yes he manages to make him slip in a fight once but he shows barely any feats that can compare to peters in the movies.

                                                                                        • Oddly Allaway
                                                                                          Oddly Allaway  1 weeks back

                                                                                          I honestly want Toby to win but at the same time I can’t argue with the facts, I’m still waiting for an all out fight though

                                                                                          • poison frog YT
                                                                                            poison frog YT  1 weeks back

                                                                                            Oh and miles beat King pen and like you said he.only had his powers for a few days