The Truth About 90s Defense In The NBA and Why It is Easier To Score In Today's League

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  • Randy Holliday
    Randy Holliday  12 hours back

    Yeah let see how good that 90’s defense is when the big has to switch the pick and roll 30 feet from the basket!!

    • Abraham Froman
      Abraham Froman  2 days back

      Meh. Once the nba allowed zone defenses, I quit watching. College ball is now more entertaining

      • Szilárd Oberritter
        Szilárd Oberritter  2 days back

        Players have to be better around the star now at least shoot the 3 the play good defense to allow a player like Giannis to do what he does. But in the playoffs he was exposed terribly. The rules made basketball a real teamsport on both sides and not a one on one based sport cause its just not that efficient anymore if someone in your team cant shoot because of the rules. You are forced to pass out more often and shoot the 3 well to be a good player. shooting 30% in the regular season is not enough to do that. Thats why I think if you just picked out some players that were seriously great before the rules changes wouldnt be as good as they were because their lack of shooting. Also the 3 pt line got further and obviously the average % dropped for lots of players(including MJ who is top 2 player all time worst case scenario) and they couldnt rely on their shooting with the skillset they had to win multiple playoff games so I think players from that era wouldnt be as good today as they were back then. The link I posted also has some info on the rule changes. Also defense in much different in the playoffs than in the regular season. And one man shows cant be as good since the rule changes. For example take a look at the Warriors defense on Lebron in 2018 (before JR did what nobody will ever forget) in the final posession before Lebron passed to Hill all the Warrior players stood around the paint preventing a drive and instantly double teaming if Lebron goes one step closer forcing him to pass out and rely on somebody on the team and the warriors knew who was the only real threat. Final word: if you center cant shoot and your an inside player in today’s game... your fucked

        • Szilárd Oberritter
          Szilárd Oberritter  2 days back

          https://youtu.be/YM_eCnTNt1Q about illegal defense

          • Jordan
            Jordan  6 days back

            One thing most people don't understand is handchecking does not mean you can foul. Holding and reaching was still the same call as it is today.
            The good defenders back then played defense with their feet just like they do today.

            • donpaul7
              donpaul7  1 weeks back

              This was one of the most informed videos I've ever seen. As parts of the video are coming up I'm thinkign a rule, and bam! you hit it. And then you provide even further inside articles and evidence FROM NBA PEOPLE. Then the Nash MVP stuff, I knew about the Grant Hill interviews on Nash as MVP, Shaq has said it many times (he also played with Nash)... they don't mince words and MOST players during that era, when picking the best PG of that era (2000s) do NOT pick Nash. Not a one. And they all were right there, part of it. They remember not being able to touch the guy and who he was. Remarkable stuff.

              • ivan calkins
                ivan calkins  2 weeks back

                Do a video on perimeter players height and weight back in Jordan's era then.

                • Kurt Olson
                  Kurt Olson  2 weeks back

                  The song in the beginning. What is it?

                  • Sammy Sam
                    Sammy Sam  2 weeks back

                    Legend of Winning, Thank you. The younger fans and current players don't have a clue how easy it is to score in the league today. And let's be honest, the players are not better in the sense of a all around player, but shooting is the name of the game today. The more 3s you take and the more you make, you're great. And that's cool because that's the game in today's era. But facts are facts and today's players and fans don't comprehend how the league has literally changed the rules and enforced others to first speed up the game and scores, and to protect the players from injury given how the game was played from the mid to late 70s up till the 2002, 2003, maybe 2004 season.
                    Back in the 70s 80, and 90s at least half of the normal fouls then would be called a flagrant 2 today.
                    Another good example for this era being a potty chair era and I hate to use him as my example but he's perfect for this example.
                    Russell Westbrook. In 1961 Oscar Robertson became the first player and was the only guard to average a triple double in a regular season. It wasn't until the 2016-17 season that Russell Westbrook became the first player in 56 years to average a triple double. Let's examine this more.
                    If the era of the 70' 80's and 90's is less than that of the 00's and 10's, why did it take 56 years for a player who never played in a hand checking era to average a triple double in a season, but did it 3 years straight? If today's game is so much more difficult and challenging, by averaging a triple double 3 years straight, wouldn't that make Russell Westbrook a better player than Bird, Magic, Iverson, Shaq, Kobe, and Jordan considering not one of them ever averaged a triple double once in what some people call a weak era?
                    Kids these days don't research anything, they just google a stat for a player they like and since participation trophies are the norm, these kids accept showing up or being average means greatness. There's a reason why the shoes are called Air Jordan's, there's a reason the bulls won two 3 peats, there's a reason it was called the Dream Team, and there's a reason the rules were changed after the 2001-2003 seasons
                    Google that shit bitches.
                    Thanks again LEDEND OF WINNING truth video

                    • R3sG THEPVS
                      R3sG THEPVS  2 weeks back

                      If you watch the way the mavs stopt LeBron in the 2011 finals it wut be very obvious that lebron wut have benefited alot from illegal defens.

                    • Maciek Majewski
                      Maciek Majewski  3 weeks back

                      Another thing that changed NBA forever is Malice at the Palace. League was made to be soft, fast paced and much more skill-wise than strength.

                      • Jarekx2007
                        Jarekx2007  3 weeks back

                        This is the problem with Youtube and media in general. Any idiot can put up a video and talk for 20 minutes about half-truths and straight up fake news, get millions of views, and influence the masses because nobody can call them out on their bullshit.


                        That video has over 2m views. This one doesn't even have 300,000. 2m people out there have never and probably will never see the facts.

                        • Mr. Miles
                          Mr. Miles  3 weeks back

                          LOW is GOAT of NBA YouTube.

                          • Mr. Miles
                            Mr. Miles  3 weeks back

                            LOW is GOAT of NBA YouTube.

                            • Jeffrey Xu
                              Jeffrey Xu  4 weeks back

                              Triggered people in the comment section

                              • Tay Yasharal
                                Tay Yasharal  4 weeks back

                                A lot of cats in the 90s had no skill as well and fouling or being dirty was their skill. Tree Rollins, John Salley, Alton Lister, Luc Longley, etc.

                                • Tay Yasharal
                                  Tay Yasharal  4 weeks back

                                  Curry is the reason this era scores a lot. 2000s was the best era in my opinion, especially defensively.

                                  • J Syv
                                    J Syv  4 weeks back

                                    Wouldn’t pace mean that the game is flowing and not stopping? Hence less fouls? Less fouls would probably mean less physical

                                    • Gsh x Money 3
                                      Gsh x Money 3  1 months back

                                      If didn't get the chance to watch 90s basketball live you have no right to even argue bout the difference between the 90s era especially if you wasn't born then you really have no argument on this topic plan and simple

                                      • Gabriel Suarez
                                        Gabriel Suarez  1 months back

                                        and this great video finishes with my favorite youtuber, chronicles of judah, boy you are on fire, great vid

                                        • Theophilus Jones
                                          Theophilus Jones  1 months back

                                          This man breaks down stuff like a smart anime character

                                          • Paul Patterson
                                            Paul Patterson  1 months back

                                            Good gob researching it thoroughly. Because of the removal of handcheking and addition of 3 seconds in the paint rules, perimeter players could get to the rim at wil,and now we have what we havex teams attempt a shitload amount of 3s even centers like brook lopez jacking up 3s, power forwards like drew gooden and all horford, you have lots of dribble penetrations resulting in layups and dunks at the rim.

                                            The nba became really boring and painful to watch, teams don't even emphasize mid range game or post players are scared to post up because zone defense.

                                            • The People's Mix
                                              The People's Mix  1 months back

                                              And the way people attacked hand checking was to hold the players arm and use them as a pole to enhance your first step 😂 fuxk outta here Jordan is overrated the rules were literally made to help him. Kobe and Bron are far better and LeBron is the GOAT and Hakeem is the most underrated player of all time as well.

                                              • Aaron Davis
                                                Aaron Davis  1 months back

                                                The more physical you are, the more trash you are. There ain't no if, ands, or buts. It clearly says at 13:16, "...and success was increasingly being dictated by how many bludgeoning 7'1", 325 pound mastodons you had on your team. Ahead of the 2001-2002 season, the league pushed back by instituting new rules to open up the floor and promote SKILL over STRENGTH...". Physicality replaces skill. I'd rather defend purely off instincts, IQ, physical gifts, and athleticism, not shove, grab, tackle, and whack the player.

                                                • Jetro Karjalainen
                                                  Jetro Karjalainen  1 months back

                                                  Great video and I agree with you but I would have wanted you to react to the part where he showed examples of fouls because they weren't bad at all. So would have wanted your take on that

                                                  • Stephen Swanson
                                                    Stephen Swanson  1 months back

                                                    Idk where you you get your info.... read https://www.lineups.com/articles/why-nba-game-pace-is-at-historic-high/

                                                    • Tevin Reid
                                                      Tevin Reid  1 months back

                                                      Your hand checking clarification was good. You cleared up his mistakes there. Your argument of pace does not address Jimmy's point. You instead just attacked him for not seemingly understanding the rule, and then you just brought interesting facts that doesn't address the argument and took liberties misquoting the committee people's words.

                                                      • Bryant Walker
                                                        Bryant Walker  1 months back

                                                        Great vid

                                                        • Base Hit
                                                          Base Hit  1 months back

                                                          Solid vid, LOW, though I wish you analyzed the zone defense rule changes a bit more. But there are people in the comments using your video in an attempt to “validate” their subjective ranking of all-time players. We cannot judge today’s NBA through the lens of the NBA from TWENTY to THIRTY YEARS AGO.

                                                          And let’s face it — 75% of the 80s & 90s purists simply hate LeBron James and will thus stop at nothing in an attempt to discredit his all-time great legacy.

                                                          • JRC Games
                                                            JRC Games  1 months back

                                                            You shit on Los man good shit

                                                            • Mazzi _
                                                              Mazzi _  1 months back

                                                              Great debate with los bro you really know you nba

                                                              • Jesus Loves you
                                                                Jesus Loves you  1 months back

                                                                2010s
                                                                PG:Curry,Kyrie,Russell,
                                                                SG:Harden,Butler,Dwayne Wade
                                                                SF:Lebron,Kawhi,Carmelo,PG
                                                                PF:Durant,Giannis,Blake,AD
                                                                C:Boogie,Embiid,Dwayne Wade

                                                                Not bad.

                                                                • G-man
                                                                  G-man  2 months back

                                                                  amateur take.Anyone who knows anything about b ball knows its a hundred times easier to score in a man to man with illegal defense in place versus zone and hybrid zone d with the 3 second

                                                                  • Adam M
                                                                    Adam M  2 months back

                                                                    His video is way better and it's why it's got way more views also his video is way more accurate

                                                                    • punizzzle
                                                                      punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                      The 2011 Mavericks also played a 2-3 zone. BRO YOURE SO STUPID

                                                                      • punizzzle
                                                                        punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                        Another thing, this playoff series with the bucks and raptors the raptors played a 3-2 zone which took Giannis out of the game. So you’re fucking wrong and should delete this video. Imagine if Giannis didn’t have to play the 3-2 zone and it was straight up man defense? We’d have a different champion right now. So stop making YouTube videos you idiot

                                                                        • punizzzle
                                                                          punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                          I’m fucking done with casual fans like you. It’s crazy to think that 30 years ago the competition was better. There are more incentives to play basketball and more people interested in playing (4 out of the 5 rewards are foreign players)

                                                                          • punizzzle
                                                                            punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                            THE REASON HARDEN/GIANNIS CAN GET A CLEAR OUT ISO IS BECAUSE THEIR TEAMS HAVE A LOT OF SHOOTERS. THE WHOLE POINT IS HE SAYING IS THAT THE FRONT OFFICE DOESNT NEED TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT SHOOTERS FOR SPACING IN THE 90S..... YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO CANT SHOOT BE GUARDED ON THE PERIMETER IN THE 90S. YOU ARE STUPID BRO LMFAOOO

                                                                            • punizzzle
                                                                              punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                              BRO ARE YOU STUPID!!!!!!

                                                                              • punizzzle
                                                                                punizzzle  2 months back

                                                                                This video sucks

                                                                                • planyrescape
                                                                                  planyrescape  2 months back

                                                                                  You're right that the early 00s were the most defensive period in NBA history. Just watch Spurs v Pistons in the 2005. You're also right about the lack of spacing in the 90s. But, I'd say that this season, we've seen a lot more zone played. And we've seen the Raps even run some box and 1 defense. I grew up watching 90s defense. And I'd say that while these days things are more offensively minded, defenses aren't incredibly less physical. Sure, you dont have enforcers like Laimbeer. But defenses are more flexible now. You have a lot of drop defense that isnt man to man. About half the league runs drop defense (usually just due to personnel, it's easier to run with the talent pool than switching defense), you can switch or you can run zone. The best teams mix up their defensive looks between possessions. That's something you'd rarely see in the 90s. I'd say the other thing that you didnt discuss that changed the league was the analytics revolution, on both ends of the ball. Not just for spacing the floor, but defenses conceding low efficiency shots.
                                                                                  But as always, this is a great video. Your points stand. I'd say that after this video was made, like a few months after, zone picked up the most steam its had in the past few years with the Nets and Raps which is just kinda weird timing wise. But a lot of these points are really well articulated. I had no idea about that David Griffin shit. Good stuff. Keep it up LoW. One of the best in the game.

                                                                                  • MIKELL CURTIS
                                                                                    MIKELL CURTIS  2 months back

                                                                                    LOL talk to Agent Zero lol

                                                                                    • nerdsinthetrap
                                                                                      nerdsinthetrap  2 months back

                                                                                      Regardless of this breakdown, the fact of the matter is that the impact of hand-checking is largely overstated. We act like the 80s and 90s basketball was like hockey or something when it was not. I grew up on the 80s and 90s NBA and still watch NBA classics all you have to do is USE YOUR EYES and you can see players are much better than they use to be. And relying on the hand checking argument to discredit this era of basketball neglects the MANY other variables and ways the game has changed that has resulted in much improved offensive output. The game is much faster, the floor is more open due to increased shooting range across all positions, players are more skilled because they start training much earlier in life (4-5 years old) with much better training including the impact of data and technology on training, not to mention the game is global now so there is a much larger talent pool. Let's just be real the game has evolved for the better and it's not just because of no more hand-checking. That is a ridiculous argument and a way for old generations to maintain their egos. Athletes, in general, have evolved which is why sprinters which can be measured more objectively than anything easily demonstrates an athlete in the 70s and 80s is not on par with current generations. If you think that is isolated to sprinting you are in denial. Don't take my word for it. Once again USE YOUR EYES. Pull up some 80s games right now on Youtube and you will see that many of the guys that played back then probably couldn't get a contract overseas now! That just reality live with it.

                                                                                      • thelegendsqb1
                                                                                        thelegendsqb1  1 months back

                                                                                        Yeah I’ve seen a good handful of 80s/90s games (mostly playoffs) and I’m very convinced that if you dropped LeBron, Giannis, KD, Harden in that era they would have an absolute FIELD DAY.

                                                                                      • nerdsinthetrap
                                                                                        nerdsinthetrap  2 months back

                                                                                        Also do your research FACT is that number of foul calls per game and free throw attempts has declined consistently over the years since the 1970s. The 80s teams were shooting 30 FTA per game and now its more around 23 FTA per game so what does that say.

                                                                                    • G-man
                                                                                      G-man  2 months back

                                                                                      boy!!! you an amateur. ZONE DEFENSE!!!!! Every player who played in no zone era and zone ALL including Mj said its much harder to score in zone. You just gotta use your common sense but its obvious you aint no baller

                                                                                      • Ahmed Salar
                                                                                        Ahmed Salar  2 months back

                                                                                        Wait hold up. Scoring was to increase due to that graph of yours but you putting around numbers of efficiency that support your own narrative. The next point really didn't hit home with me. I also felt like you didn't address the eyetest. I watched like 13 games in the pre hand check and felt like the foul calls were quite the same. Now these weren't highlights, these were full games. Some of those calls were as stupid as today. I liked where the video was going but in cases like these you have to keep the biases aside.

                                                                                        • philchips
                                                                                          philchips  2 months back

                                                                                          You and the other kid haven't been alive to experience it all. No matter how many youtube vids you research or stats you crunch, you won't fully understand as well as the many many other factors involved. It was way more physical opposed to not being able to touch your opponent. Zone is legal. I could go on and on. Players today are much more softer, that's not to say they wouldn't learn if thrown into that situation.

                                                                                          • Lance Yocom
                                                                                            Lance Yocom  2 months back

                                                                                            7:25 just wondering how you can graph pace.

                                                                                            • YIKES
                                                                                              YIKES  2 months back

                                                                                              Also even if he didn’t include pace the claim is still valid plus you could also say the pace slowed down due to to increase in better defense

                                                                                            • YIKES
                                                                                              YIKES  2 months back

                                                                                              Lance Yocom yeah same here I was looking at the chart and that doesn’t explain shit he just put a random chart

                                                                                          • JG32
                                                                                            JG32  2 months back

                                                                                            Why have the best games always been slugfests?
                                                                                            2010 nba finals Game 7
                                                                                            Lakers def Celtics 83-79
                                                                                            2016 nba finals game 7
                                                                                            Cavaliers def Warriors 93-89
                                                                                            2019 ECSF game 7
                                                                                            Raptors def 76ers 93-91
                                                                                            Rarely do the best games reach 100 points

                                                                                            • thelegendsqb1
                                                                                              thelegendsqb1  2 months back

                                                                                              Funny how you’re bringing up games of this decade where the oldheads say “Defense is soft blah blah blah”. Usually Game 7s I’ve noticed tend to be very low scoring because both teams are literally burnt out and exhausted and it feels more like an offensive struggle than a defensive struggle.