Who Was The Better Joker? Ledger Or Phoenix?

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  • Published: 05 October 2019
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    Let the battle begin.

    With the arrival of director Todd Phillips' long-awaited Joker movie, a new challenger has entered the arena in hopes of becoming the new Best Joker Actor Ever. His name? Joaquin Phoenix. His game? Well, doing his job and delivering the chilling kind of performance he knows is required of him, but possibly also dethroning the late Heath Ledger in the process.

    Since the announcement of Joker, fans have pit Phoenix and Ledger against one another, placing bets on whether or not the newcomer could shock and scare audiences as the failed-comedian-turned-crazed-killer Arthur Fleck as much as Ledger did through his turn in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight. The debate over Phoenix and Ledger as the Joker began months ago, but with the world finally able to see Phoenix strut his stuff in clown makeup and a tattered suit, the fight is no longer theoretical.

    So, now that Joker has landed in theaters, who played the character better: Joaquin Phoenix or Heath Ledger?

    Plenty of people were totally floored by the work Phoenix did in Joker, so much so that they now consider him better in the role than the late Ledger. Some even think Phoenix is the best Joker actor point blank.

    "Are you having any negative thoughts?"

    "All I have are negative thoughts."

    One Twitter user wrote:

    "With all due respect to previous Jokers and to the great Heath Ledger, Joaquin Phoenix is the best Joker. He has everything it needs. We finally have a proper actor playing the character in a very unfamiliar new shape. If Ledger's a straight flush, Phoenix's a full deck."

    Another fan tweeted:

    "I thought it would take a long time before someone delivers Joker better than Heath Ledger. As it turned out it only took 11 years and a certain Joaquin Phoenix."

    This fan continued to gush over Phoenix's performance in another tweet, writing,

    "Joaquin Phoenix should get an Oscar, a golden globe, an Olympic gold medal, a Nobel prize, a ballon d'or, Knighthood, a champions league winner medal and a presidential medal of freedom for his performance as the joker." Keep watching the video to see who was the better Joker? Ledger or Phoenix?

    #Joker #JoaquinPhoenixJoker #HeathLedgerJoker
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Comments • 4 279

  • Looper
    Looper   2 weeks back

    Which actor crushed the role of the Joker the best?

    • Mr Krabs with 100k subscribers
      Mr Krabs with 100k subscribers  9 hours back

      Pheonix

    • 385ers
      385ers  13 hours back

      Just cuz ledger died a legend he not better... Hardcore fangirls suck MA cock

    • Carlos Vega
      Carlos Vega  2 days back

      Ledger 📒

    • Bishal Adhikary
      Bishal Adhikary  3 days back

      Heath for sure. Joaquin's acting was horribly bad and the repeated hysterical laughters got so annoying.

    • clash of clan
      clash of clan  3 days back

      @Frank Z. Ofcourse i saw it, remember one thing Phoenix got solo movie to expose his joker acting skill but legendary ledger just show his skill only few minuit what he got in dark knight

  • B H
    B H  7 hours back

    I love phoenixs joker it was a master peace and its the best joker in his movie heaths joker wouldn't work in that movie and same with jp in dark Knight

    • graceholt35
      graceholt35  9 hours back

      Phoenix wins no doubt

      • 77moessa
        77moessa  10 hours back

        Jared who??

        • Војкан Селаковић

          Joaquin's Joker is for grown ups.

          • TheReal Winner
            TheReal Winner  14 hours back

            Ledger was crazy from the beginning. He had power from the beginning. It was an amazing play from him but Phoenix had more work to do. His character was getting crazier scene after scene. He had to show madness piece by piece from soft to hard. Joker movie after the end made me thinkin bout it all night and the very next day. I never saw an actor playing a mental unstable person soooo gooooddd..it was like I was watching documentsry. Maestro actor

            • vicky L
              vicky L  21 hours back

              They are both incomparable in their own style..

              • Lola K. Alm
                Lola K. Alm  22 hours back

                Joaquín always

                • Peter Parker Recycle Bin
                  Peter Parker Recycle Bin  22 hours back

                  Both of them have a brilliant acting but for some good reason I feel more familiar with Heath Ledger version

                  • Ryan Frink
                    Ryan Frink  24 hours back

                    When the Dark Knight came out, I was mesmerized by Ledger's joker. He took it in a completely different direction and I loved his performance.

                    With that said, after seeing JP's Joker, my jaw was on the floor pretty much the whole movie. This is some of the best acting I have ever seen! While I love both jokers, and each have their own distinct, and unique brand......I have to say I prefer JP's performance, personally. Not to disrespect Ledger at all, because he too was amazing.

                    Remember, this is all opinion. There is not right or wrong answer, just your own opinion.

                    • Roman Ramos
                      Roman Ramos  1 days back

                      NOOOOPE!! Looper is wrong, as always. Ledger's the one that pushed it to what we've seen trying to portray from these other two jokers, pun intended.

                      • Corona paps
                        Corona paps  1 days back

                        Imo Arthur Fleck is the best joker ever

                        • John Conte
                          John Conte  1 days back

                          Ledger. And it’s not even close

                          • Donald Trump
                            Donald Trump  1 days back

                            *Imagine A Universe Like this*

                            Best:Jared Leto

                            Worst:Heath Ledger

                            • Juan Mejia
                              Juan Mejia  1 days back

                              Ledger will always be the best joker the way he prepared himself for the role and what he did

                              • Deven Cook
                                Deven Cook  2 days back

                                you're right there is no best joker but we definitely know who the worst was *coughs* Jared leto

                                • Lee Weitz
                                  Lee Weitz  2 days back

                                  Joaquin 🙌🏼🙌🏼

                                  • TOONFLIX
                                    TOONFLIX  2 days back

                                    I still like heath than joaquinn they all have different versions and different characteristics and this is why i love heath ledger. He is matured and talks about the balance of the world which is him represents as the bad guy(antagonist) and batman is the good guy(protagonist) what makes the movie so good is that heath joker has a goal to prove something and make an impact around the world the human behavior of each and everyone of us lets us think to choose the good side or the bad side. Which batman proves him wrong that the people of gotham(us humans) are good and not bad(the bomb ship scene). He explain it to batman when he was caught saying "when the first line of trouble gets drop this civilized people will eat each other" which basically happens in reality and even now for ex. The war , us-china trade or territory nation by nation. Etc.." and the batman is us humans(for only those who understand of whats happening in the environment who wants to make some changes and also wants to prove something equality ,justice etc.. in the world) not mentioning thier performance that they are really suited as being the joker and the batman. 👏👏👏. While on joaquin joker i like it a lot hes performance is outstanding but idont like the characteristics of joker on that film he is unmatured more focuses only on him and the sad part is the sequel they change the story of joker. completely changed which supposed to be just a stranger no records no names and no complete existence where he came from at all thats the character of joker.

                                    • online ninja
                                      online ninja  2 days back

                                      *LETO HAS LEFT THE CHAT*

                                      • monty wilson
                                        monty wilson  2 days back

                                        We can’t compare these 2 their both absolutely amazing as Joaquin’s joker shows his life growing up and the sad truth of society and mental illness as heaths joker is great both flawless!

                                        • groid
                                          groid  2 days back

                                          Phoenix by far, ledger's joker was far too edgy and made me cringe, while phoenix was more crazy

                                          • Nightfrost joins the FCC

                                            Ledger is an amazing actor. He’s a legendary joker, but I accept that Phoenix’s joker is infact outstanding. And yeah you can argue he was emotional, but the movie is to show the audience how he became joker. Maybe later we’ll see the same joker just less emotional.

                                            • StrangerOf The206
                                              StrangerOf The206  2 days back

                                              Leave it to Looper to make a video comparing the two...

                                              • Bettina Ouaknine
                                                Bettina Ouaknine  2 days back

                                                I thought Jared Leto’s Joker was a tad too campy whereas Joaquin Phoenix always challenges himself in taking difficult roles; he is a serious and gifted actor and his portrayal of Joker was seriously gifted!

                                                • King Trawal
                                                  King Trawal  2 days back

                                                  Let me put it this way... Joaquin Phoenix Version = Jordan, Ledger's version = Lebron. I'll go with the Undefeated guy with 6 rings, and 6 Finals MVPs....but Lebron is okay. not too bad. But a bridesmaid nonetheless.

                                                  • King Trawal
                                                    King Trawal  2 days back

                                                    Don Fharis ^^ Bronsexual triggggggerred 😂🖕

                                                  • Don Fharis
                                                    Don Fharis  2 days back

                                                    Dumb comparison tbh

                                                • Charlie Johnston
                                                  Charlie Johnston  3 days back

                                                  Ledger was great and really got into the character, But Phoenix is downright crazy so they both did good in there roles.

                                                  • LD xxx
                                                    LD xxx  3 days back

                                                    Phoenix for sure

                                                    • dean ✓
                                                      dean ✓  3 days back

                                                      They both reflect their time

                                                      Heath Ledger’s: terrorism
                                                      Joaquin Phoenix’s: mental illness
                                                      --
                                                      Joaquin Phoenix: The perfect representation of Joker before he became the Joker.
                                                      Heath Ledger: The perfect representation of Joker as the Joker.

                                                      • Alfie 02
                                                        Alfie 02  17 hours back

                                                        Copied and pasted

                                                    • Gang Weeder
                                                      Gang Weeder  3 days back

                                                      I don't know I can't pick one or the other I think they're both the best Jokers ever.

                                                      Just Heath Ledger's Joker is a little more I guess masculine for lack of better description all Phoenix Joker is more I guess Disturbed antisocial or autist for lack of a better description.

                                                      Both were disturbing both were mental and both were clever for what they had going. And honestly both are very realistic.

                                                      • TheBikeOnTheMoon
                                                        TheBikeOnTheMoon  3 days back

                                                        the 2 versions of joker have their own different leagues, very hard to compare

                                                        • Bishal Adhikary
                                                          Bishal Adhikary  3 days back

                                                          I went to watch it thinking it would somewhat as good as Taxi Driver. But it was shockingly bad and acting was terrible. There are no other interesting characters other than Joker. Terrible movie to be honest.

                                                          • Yasser Krimly
                                                            Yasser Krimly  3 days back

                                                            I hope there will be another Joaquin joker no arthur just joker and action..

                                                            • TEACH 4 Malayalam
                                                              TEACH 4 Malayalam  3 days back

                                                              Dark knight best joker like
                                                              No dark knight joker joker commands

                                                              • ruah rayne
                                                                ruah rayne  3 days back

                                                                Phoenix is straight up disrespectful for trying to up ledger, which he can never do. Heath never came out of the role, he died in it.

                                                                • Finn Marr-Heenan
                                                                  Finn Marr-Heenan  3 days back

                                                                  Obviously mark Hamil is the best joker,
                                                                  Watch batman beyond return of the joker or batman mask of the phantasm if you disagree.

                                                                  • Nigga In The Comment Section

                                                                    Nah Heath Ledger was more of the Joker, and Phoenix was more of a crazy person who finally snaps

                                                                    • Colby Halterman
                                                                      Colby Halterman  3 days back

                                                                      I like Phoenix because he’s Oscar worthy and his backstory is amazing heath ledger was just a crazy terrorist.

                                                                      • Colby Halterman
                                                                        Colby Halterman  2 days back

                                                                        Don Fharis ok but did ledger every walk on stage grabbing the Oscar and giving a speech nope because he never lived to see it.

                                                                      • Don Fharis
                                                                        Don Fharis  2 days back

                                                                        You say Phoenix because he's Oscar worthy, and he is, but Ledger actually won the Oscar. He was amazing as well

                                                                    • Kayson Adkins
                                                                      Kayson Adkins  3 days back

                                                                      This video sucks.

                                                                      • Red Mann
                                                                        Red Mann  3 days back

                                                                        Heath Ledger hands down

                                                                        • SlayerPayback
                                                                          SlayerPayback  4 days back

                                                                          Here's the thing....

                                                                          They both win if I'm being honest, they're both equal in how great they are, but in different ways

                                                                          • pratik kr. bose
                                                                            pratik kr. bose  4 days back

                                                                            HEATH

                                                                            LEDGER


                                                                            ALL THE WAY !!!!

                                                                            P E R I O D

                                                                            • Eric Villalobos
                                                                              Eric Villalobos  4 days back

                                                                              Phoenix made you feel like putting on a clown mask.

                                                                              • Terry Martin 9
                                                                                Terry Martin 9  4 days back

                                                                                Ledgers joker was the miles better

                                                                                • Arensi
                                                                                  Arensi  4 days back

                                                                                  Come on guys... Phoenix was not even close to Heath..

                                                                                  • PraiseDa Memes
                                                                                    PraiseDa Memes  4 days back

                                                                                    Phoenix' Joker: A mentally challenged man living in a harsh society.


                                                                                    Ledger's Joker: An actual threat to Gotham and Batman

                                                                                    • Ryan Frink
                                                                                      Ryan Frink  2 days back

                                                                                      @LD xxx I hope you're right. I have a feeling this film may be a one-and-done though. Kinda hoping I'm wrong here :)

                                                                                    • LD xxx
                                                                                      LD xxx  2 days back

                                                                                      @Ryan Frink I'm sure we will find out in the next installment x

                                                                                    • Ryan Frink
                                                                                      Ryan Frink  2 days back

                                                                                      @LD xxx Exactly! This movie was merely an origin film. Who knows how much further JP's Joker would have slipped into madness.

                                                                                    • LD xxx
                                                                                      LD xxx  3 days back

                                                                                      True but we are only seeing the beginning of Phoenix's threat to Gotham and batman

                                                                                    • Nigga In The Comment Section
                                                                                      Nigga In The Comment Section  3 days back

                                                                                      PraiseDa Memes THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN WORDS

                                                                                  • cappinhard__ ___
                                                                                    cappinhard__ ___  4 days back

                                                                                    Ledger maybe

                                                                                    • Saluran ABD
                                                                                      Saluran ABD  4 days back

                                                                                      Ledger the best because as Batman Villain, He was very manipulative and keep Batman as film from every age. Phoenix showed sadism Joker, it make Joker as Batman vilain not film for Child. Joker Ledger as action film. Joker Phoenix as Drama Thriller.

                                                                                      • Aquarius
                                                                                        Aquarius  4 days back

                                                                                        There not even the same Joker tho so how could you compare? Ledger's Joker is military vet, mastermind while Pheonix is a retaliating victim of mental illness and abuse.