The Economics That Made Boeing Build the 737 Max

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  • Published: 30 April 2019
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    References:
    [1] nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jet_airliners
    [3] flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-boss-green-lights-all-new-next-generation-nar-353056/
    [4] web.mit.edu/airlinedata/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Small%20Narrow/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Small%20Narrowbody%20Fleet.htm; web.mit.edu/airlinedata/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Widebody/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Widebody%20Fleet.htm
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    [9] airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2010/12/airbus-offers-new-fuel-saving-engine-options-for-a320-family.html
    [10] nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html
    [11] news.aa.com/news/news-details/2011/AMR-Corporation-Announces-Largest-Aircraft-Order-In-History-With-Boeing-And-Airbus-07202011/default.aspx
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    [13] panamacademy.com/boeing-737-ng-type-rating-and-training-courses
    [14] nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [15] boeing.com/commercial/737max/#/technical-specs; b737.org.uk/737max.htm
    [16] aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019-03-19-Air-Canada-Updates-Schedule-Following-the-Grounding-of-the-Boeing-737-MAX-Aircraft
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Comments • 3 782

  • Wendover Productions
    Wendover Productions   5 months back

    Hey all, 
    I hope you find this video interesting. It is meant to provide an overview of what led to Boeing creating the 737 MAX rather than giving a comprehensive overview of the factors leading to the two crashes and the issues with MCAS so the explanation on that is quick. If you want to learn more about that, I would suggest starting with this article: https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/vestigal-design-issue-clouds-737-max-crash-investigations/

    Also, for the first time ever, we're taking topic suggestions for future Wendover videos. If we end up using your topic, we'll send you a free Wendover t-shirt in gratitude. Submit your ideas here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMAoo9CfGxr5OvZdz3qCCEkeQSVJpak3YYTHQFLRwXOyTOXA/viewform?usp=sf_link

    • Guinness
      Guinness  3 days back

      Wendover Productions you should do a follow up to this on the economic cost of the 737 max grounding

    • Wonder Zwane
      Wonder Zwane  1 weeks back

      No wonder it's still grounded!

    • Pablo Gonzalez
      Pablo Gonzalez  4 weeks back

      @Hualani - MCAS isn't part of the autopilot it's a form of stability augmentation which is prevalent in modern airliners more accurately it prevents the control column force required to pitch up from progressively decreasing in certain AOA regions preventing pilots from easily inducing a stall themselves.

      While the MAX is often labeled as "aerodynamically unstable" it isn't and the 777 which employs Relaxed Static Stability technically IS unstable but that doesn't mean it's dangerous as is proven by its safety record

    • Hualani
      Hualani  4 weeks back

      Good video, good job albeit I suspect more is at play besides MCAS alone in AOA autopilot integration systems. A330 incidents have largely remained unpublicized within US media sources, yet presenting similar if not yet fatal cockpit emergencies for more than a decade. Its an investigation waiting for broadcast from those unafraid of consequences, Id like to see ALPA take a more proactive standing. Unlikely. It seems in twenty-first century loss of life is sole instigation for thorough exposé.

  • Cagefree
    Cagefree  8 hours back

    I used to be a hardcore if it isn’t boeing I’m not going fan. Now? I rather fly on a Tupolev or Sukhoi... Hell, I’ll rather fly on a Comac before a Max. This is what happens when idiot MBAs make the decision to save money and slap modern engines on an airplane designed in the 1960’s. FFS, I’m no engineer but when they went from the old low bypass engines to the newer high bypass engines and had to flatten out the bottom to make them fit, you probably have hit the limits of the airframe. What’s worse is they had a great airplane, the 757, which could fit these new engines. Not only that, if you can fly a 757 you can also fly a 767. But no, let’s keep what’s basically a pterodactyl in the air.

    • serenader
      serenader  9 hours back

      FTFY it was a GREEDY decision by GREEDY Evil minds.

      • Sam Lutfi
        Sam Lutfi  19 hours back

        Boeing dropped the ball here. Their only new airplane in 25 years is the 787. Everything else has just been repurposed. Engines have become so large it was clear that Boeing needed a new place to replace the 737. The max in turn reflects all the problems that come with this mistake. MCAS is designed specifically because the engines are to big for the plane, had the plane been redesigned it would never have had this issue nor even needed an MCAS system

        • John Oke
          John Oke  20 hours back

          Air Canada also used the 737 Max 8 between Toronto (YYZ) and Shannon, Ireland (SNN)

          • Albert Kite
            Albert Kite  22 hours back

            are u a femanazi

            • Doin'it F1rstPerson
              Doin'it F1rstPerson  1 days back

              Boeing:The Boeing 737 Max is Cheap and Fuel Efficient!


              Airlines: oh cool! how much does it cost?


              Boeing: oh, just 100 eternal souls

              • Mr. S308
                Mr. S308  3 days back

                fucking killers

                • Orange World
                  Orange World  4 days back

                  Yes Boeing made a faulty AoA sensor, however the first accident was lion airs fault.

                  Explanation time, The day before the first accident they had a faulty AoA sensor and an MCAS malfunction, however there was a third person in the cockpit that day (check airman) this other person knew how to and did correct the MCAS malfunction. This should’ve been a red flag to send this plane off to lion air maintenance, this should have have been the red flag to take that plane out of service until lion air maintenance fixed the AOA sensor. However Lion air maintenance did not fix this, and that plane went down the next day because of an AOA failure that sent MCAS to believe they were in a higher pitch.

                  • JTMarlin8
                    JTMarlin8  4 days back

                    The 737MAX is an excellent airplane that you whiny little shitheads would be LUCKY to die in. I mean fly in.

                    • Alex T
                      Alex T  5 days back

                      Flights per day? That means nothing.

                      • Tony Lam
                        Tony Lam  5 days back

                        Airbus better tread lightly, for they have their share of crashes and the US can force an airworthiness review on them. Why did an Airbus insist on landing in 88, and why did a Qantas plane got over 100 passengers hurt, and the training, flt 447 , the crew did not seems to understand what a stall is and pancaked into the ocean. For anyone who is concern about the only 2 major manufacturers in the world , I suggest they try some of the even more primitive new Russian /Chinese planes coming on stream.

                        • sam nyc
                          sam nyc  5 days back

                          Airbus are "fly by wire"
                          Boeing are "cable and pulley"

                          • Sudipta Shome
                            Sudipta Shome  6 days back

                            Yeah. I agree it’s Criminal Negligence.
                            They should be prosecuted, with exemplary punishment

                            • Andrew
                              Andrew  6 days back

                              Great episode. If only all media and journalism was this detailed and articulate.

                              • Kevin zhang
                                Kevin zhang  7 days back

                                More like "The greed that made Boeing kill 300 people."

                                • NERF club
                                  NERF club  7 days back

                                  Just to let everyone know the 737 max dose not use a wire system

                                  • Donavan Emanuel
                                    Donavan Emanuel  7 days back

                                    For the last time... THE BOEING 737NG/MAX IS FLY BY WIRE, WHICH MEANS ALL FLIGHT INPUTS ARE INTERPRETED THROUGH A COMPUTER. THERE ARE NO “cables”

                                    • FaiBroadcastChannel
                                      FaiBroadcastChannel  7 days back

                                      AA: now the blame back to me wtf

                                      • Debashis Karmakar
                                        Debashis Karmakar  7 days back

                                        Great 👍 very true .

                                        • VooDooTrois
                                          VooDooTrois  1 weeks back

                                          ... not a QUITE custom domain name?

                                          • infinitecanadian
                                            infinitecanadian  1 weeks back

                                            I rode on a 737 MAX 8 just this year.

                                            • Danny Barcenas
                                              Danny Barcenas  1 weeks back

                                              Those Pilots must be Aces I believe its just sufficient Training required to fly this plane safely

                                          • Axel Palm90
                                            Axel Palm90  1 weeks back

                                            Yoke: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

                                            • Jacob Cudlitz
                                              Jacob Cudlitz  1 weeks back

                                              If they could make engines have less drag but stay big and have a high bipass ratio

                                              • Amateur Asian
                                                Amateur Asian  4 days back

                                                They do make those. You ever seen the 777x engine?

                                            • Bobby Fhet
                                              Bobby Fhet  1 weeks back

                                              YABADABADOOOOO!! Fred Flinstones plane with a crash light at extra cost...

                                              • Philo Sopher
                                                Philo Sopher  1 weeks back

                                                Like getting a tiny bag of pretzels, sitting in hard little seats all squished together and paying baggage fees wasn't enough for them. These 737 planes aren't fun to fly in. It would be pure agony to do an 8 hour flight.

                                                • Caleb Austin
                                                  Caleb Austin  1 weeks back

                                                  i think Boeing should’ve at least raised the landing gear so that they could have enough space under the engine...

                                                • martin joseph
                                                  martin joseph  1 weeks back

                                                  the empire is crumbling.

                                                  • Sharp Pig
                                                    Sharp Pig  1 weeks back

                                                    1,696,969th viewer!

                                                    • prokousholi
                                                      prokousholi  1 weeks back

                                                      Boils down to shareholders...

                                                      • Mom's Spaghetti
                                                        Mom's Spaghetti  2 weeks back

                                                        Should have revamped the 757 instead

                                                        • Altaf As
                                                          Altaf As  2 weeks back

                                                          Boeing 737 MAX
                                                          became
                                                          Boeing 737 MAD

                                                          • Aramis Karis
                                                            Aramis Karis  2 weeks back

                                                            W airbus 👍

                                                            • KingMattVidz
                                                              KingMattVidz  2 weeks back

                                                              You should make how airlines predict arrival times

                                                              • alan6832
                                                                alan6832  2 weeks back

                                                                They made the computer too powerful, and Airbus is even worse. Boeing combined a powerful computer with a shoddy sensor, without enough testing, which is inexcusable. Once the executives responsible are in jail though, the problem has already been fixed and the 737max should fly again, But ONLY as long as the executives are in jail, and it must be grounded whenever they are free.
                                                                All the plane needs is limits on the computer trim control, a backup sensor, and an executive prison, and it had the first 2 months ago.
                                                                They also need a stretch version that trades some range for increased capacity, since carrying 4000 miles of fuel is not fuel efficient, so planes should refuel within 2000 miles whenever possible. This also allows passengers to stretch their legs, thereby reducing legroom requirements, which again increases efficiency.

                                                                • Leo Rambo
                                                                  Leo Rambo  2 weeks back

                                                                  Your videos are really cool, but this one is kind of misleading. The 737 MAX has Hydraulic flight control actuators, and cables as redundant direct-controls, It also has a dedicated warning panel instead of a 'single warning light'. Moreover, commercial aircrafts don't have a 'one click start', all have a multistep procedure of some form. You should do more research before making a video, otherwise you are only spreading misinformation to your millions of subscribers.

                                                                  • Robin Jenssen
                                                                    Robin Jenssen  3 weeks back

                                                                    737 is the sexiest plane in my opinion, should never be discontinued!

                                                                    • 津波うま味
                                                                      津波うま味  3 weeks back

                                                                      I had booked my flight from India to Malaysia but cancelled it after finding out that was a Boeing aircraft ...now I am going through Singapore to Malaysia by an operator who uses airbus ....I will never fly Boeing ever again.... neither will my family.. if it's Boeing I ain't going ..American corporations are slowly showing out their capitalistic greed

                                                                      • Chris Jovy
                                                                        Chris Jovy  2 weeks back

                                                                        @津波うま味 I'm not about brand loyalty. For me, it's too much of a media overreaction. It's unfortunate to say but these lives were lost in fixing the problem, Boeings management. Boeings is great but the management is killing it.

                                                                      • 津波うま味
                                                                        津波うま味  2 weeks back

                                                                        @Chris Jovy I agree with you man ..but tell me if you would would put Ur wife and 2 kids on a 737 max knowing what happened ..? I wouldn't coz we are frequent flyers around 4 round trips every month ... My family especially my kids safety is much more valuable to me than brand loyalty .

                                                                      • German Aviation
                                                                        German Aviation  2 weeks back

                                                                        Chris Jovy Perfectly said. Media controls too much these days.

                                                                      • Chris Jovy
                                                                        Chris Jovy  2 weeks back

                                                                        All airplanes could be a deathtrap. Also not to remove the blame on Boeing but Airbus uses the same system of making their planes training as simple as it can be. The A380 cockpit is almost as similar as the A340, every aviation company dose this to reduce costs and have more orders. I personally did fly on the MAX but the media overreaction is a way too much. The B747 had 61 hull losses ( due to the poor security pre-2001, and back in the 70s/80s where plane bombings was the #1 thing that terrorists did) while The max only had 2. Southwest had 44,000K flights and had zero incidents. I will wait about 2-3 years after recertification but after that, I am back in the plane due to being a frequent traveler. Personally, I do prefer Boeing because its more comfortable and has more legroom (usually) than Airbus. Also, all corporations are meant to make profits, If it wasn't Eastern airlines an American company Airbus would have never existed.

                                                                    • gmrb79s
                                                                      gmrb79s  3 weeks back

                                                                      I was expecting metrics actually

                                                                      • Jerry Massey
                                                                        Jerry Massey  3 weeks back

                                                                        Most people commenting here have no idea what they are saying and only taking a media perspective to shape their own opinions. It is sad that people have become so weak minded that they cannot look at the facts themselves and speak intelligently afterwards. Most refuse to waste the additional time it takes to get the right information, much less speak intelligently. It is much easier to spew hatred across the internet than facts I suppose. Boeing did offer training packages on the MCAS and other systems of the aircraft but many countries did not purchase the training. As the narrator said, this aircraft flies the same today as it did 50 years ago. American Airlines did not purchase the training and they did not crash a single aircraft. Most 1st world countries did not purchase any of the training and most did not crash an aircraft. But, there are flaws in everything man made. Nothing is perfect. Airbus had multiple issues with the A380 but no one is talking about those today. Wanna know why we have rounded windows in all aircraft today? Go ask DeHavilland how three of their jets exploded off the coast of Africa because pressurized cabins and square windows lead to stress fractures over a short period of operation. Better yet, lets ask Lockheed Martin about their C130 wing spar issues?I have a degree in Aeronautics, an A&P license, a pilots license, and a multitude of other licenses in the field of aviation. But what I have never obtained is the ability to witness false statements and hatred spewed by those who have absolutely no credentials to speak about a subject and have the ability to sit back and allow it to happen. Just sit down, shut up, and let the real engineers fix the issue.

                                                                        • John Smith
                                                                          John Smith  3 weeks back

                                                                          The fact that Boeing kept redesigning and updating the 737 to be able to sell the plane on price instead of fuel efficiency wasn't what led to the crashes and grounding. Where Boeing messed up was by designing MCAS in such a way that it took all of its critical Angle Of Attack data from a single sensor. When that one sensor was defective, damaged, or frozen, it sent erroneous readings into the MCAS system, which ordered the plane to go nose-down to "correct" a stall condition that was not actually happening. Depending on one sensor created a "single point of failure", which is a design flaw that good "belt and suspenders" engineers avoid. Two independent sensors feeding the MCAS and a warning signal to pilots that that the sensors aren't agreeing would be better. Three independent sensors feeding a logic circuit that disregards a sensor that is not in agreement with the other two and "assumes" the two that agree are correct, doesn't feed the bad sensor's bad data to MCAS, AND warns pilots of the sensor issue is probably what SHOULD have been designed in the first place, but some non-engineering middle manager came up with a cheaper idea on behalf of Boeing's shareholders.

                                                                        • Mike‘s World
                                                                          Mike‘s World  3 weeks back

                                                                          The problem of capitalist, short term thinking. Don’t get me wrong, capitalism ist the only war to runnan economy, but we have to get rid of that short term thinking.. it is all about the next quarter that counts. That does not work. Investors, CEOs and politicians in the West need to learn to thinknin longer terms. What are is our goal for the next 10, 20 or 30 years ... politicians only think until the next election and business leaders only worry about the next quarter .. this is a way of operating, that lead to disaster isn so many cases and nobody is learning from these mistakes 🤦🏻‍♂️

                                                                          • Mike‘s World
                                                                            Mike‘s World  3 weeks back

                                                                            The MAX doesn’t just have a warning light .. it has a full EICAS System

                                                                            • Mike‘s World
                                                                              Mike‘s World  3 weeks back

                                                                              It is time to replace the 737 ASAP. Boeing could build something awesome like the 787, just smaller.

                                                                              • ADM midnightcamowolf
                                                                                ADM midnightcamowolf  3 weeks back

                                                                                Please don't bash the BOEING COMPANY'S B737MAX

                                                                                • JeSSoN L
                                                                                  JeSSoN L  3 weeks back

                                                                                  안녕하세요 hallo

                                                                                  • Steven Virden Rasmussen-Jones

                                                                                    These kinds of faulty decisions are made in the board room all the time.

                                                                                    • Pwj579
                                                                                      Pwj579  3 weeks back

                                                                                      Oversimplification based on hearsay