Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 778

  • Filip Radojevic
    Filip Radojevic  5 minutes back

    I think you are wrong about this. Mental illness is not the first thing on the list that drives Arthur to become the Joker , it plays as the undercurrent of his miserable life and sets the stage for his transformation ... When his mother dies , Arthur she wanted him to be dies with her , and a new identity is born rooted not in denial of
    the harsh reality like the old Arthur , but in the very core of all his painful experience , emerges as a consequence a new mind uninhibited and criminaly insane...

    • Ms Pineapple
      Ms Pineapple  33 minutes back

      To be honest couldn’t we just watch matpat as school lol

      • EdgierBean
        EdgierBean  54 minutes back

        All the joker's have been diagnosed with a range of mental illnesses. But the one they all have in common is scitsophrenia. So... Yeah...

        • Ace Diamonds
          Ace Diamonds  2 hours back

          schrodingers king of comedy

          • luar perez
            luar perez  2 hours back

            matpat:joker is not really violent
            joker:am i a joke to you
            oh wait i am

            • Stefaa .27
              Stefaa .27  5 hours back

              If this theory is true then he spoiled the movie

              • hatchettwit
                hatchettwit  5 hours back

                I think it would badass if it went down like this. I think you give modern movies too much credit.

                • Alicia
                  Alicia  6 hours back

                  Could u do a theory of the Joker maybe being IT

                  • Georgie Pineda
                    Georgie Pineda  6 hours back

                    1. Arthur is a name used in the kiling joke comic, were he was a comedian. So there is a comic background.

                    2. Pseudobulbar affect, is more a neurological disorder than a psychiatric disorder which means that you can be mentaly healthy, no mood disorder, and have burst of laughter or crying that are not related to any enviromental stimulus with the latter (crying) being more frequent than the former (laughing).

                    3. It's not schizophrenia... not only we don't have enough information to say that but you took symtoms and signs then made them fit the diagnose without properly understanding those symtomes and signs (i.e. his dances, if pathological, could fit any of the detailed and studied movement disorder but you avoid explaining WHY and WHAT disorder it fits)

                    4. Yes, you can diagnose schizophrenia by observing a patient talk and write, but more than the handwritting, which matpat implies, it's the content the order of the words and the conjugation of the verbs (past-tense, regular, irregular) which if applied to Arthur would make his diary unreable or obviosly grammatically incorrect.

                    5. Delusions and hallusinations... Matpat mentions them but fails to describe what their psychiatric meaning is, how it is applies and how they differentiate from each other and from illusions or ideas of grandeur or even megalomania.

                    Yeah, i know it's a theory but it is really far fetched, not only that but it spreads misinformation of what schizophrenia really is and applying it to the joker will never explain his terrible acts. As a side note i won't theorize his diagnose without information which means that i will patiently wait for the movie and with all the pieces in sight i'll try to solve the joker's puzzle.

                    • Speedytyperman Answers
                      Speedytyperman Answers  7 hours back

                      sometimes I think people of film theorists channel are just bottom feeding scumbags, who instead of doing "Theories" just blatantly turning and twisting other people's work just so they can make a monetized video with millions of views to feed off their 14 year old audiences who won't even be bother to go watch/read/play/google the original source.

                      • Nuper In Nocte
                        Nuper In Nocte  7 hours back

                        Todd Phillips sounds like a name fit for the 6th Robin.

                        • waptek
                          waptek  8 hours back

                          4:50 we laugh to hide our SCREAMS!

                          • JAMCastillo1
                            JAMCastillo1  8 hours back

                            99k likes

                            • HiMyNameIs !!!!!!!!!
                              HiMyNameIs !!!!!!!!!  9 hours back

                              hi

                              • John Jones
                                John Jones  9 hours back

                                Hmm, interesting...I wonder if the big reveal at the end is that he is imagining himself to be the Joker, not because he is the Joker, but because he knows about Joker from the comic books?

                                • maya player1
                                  maya player1  11 hours back

                                  WOW

                                  • Brad Palato
                                    Brad Palato  12 hours back

                                    The director himself said that this movie had nothing to do with the actual joker

                                    • Dontplay Withme
                                      Dontplay Withme  12 hours back

                                      The joker fanesed chuckys laugh

                                      • Scott Galpin
                                        Scott Galpin  13 hours back

                                        Your an idiot

                                        • Jar Jar Binks
                                          Jar Jar Binks  14 hours back

                                          Mesa not mentally ill....

                                          • Timothy Kozlowski
                                            Timothy Kozlowski  14 hours back

                                            I'll watch their take on the Joker. No matter what you say

                                            • Anya
                                              Anya  15 hours back

                                              If this is what the joker movie will end up being. This will probably become one of my top favorite movies of all time. Aside from Amadeus and Silence of the Lambs.

                                              • Jon Dani
                                                Jon Dani  15 hours back

                                                I hope you’re wrong. I want a relatable character. Someone growing and raising. Not some delusional person shuffling around around.

                                                • Jam sandwiches
                                                  Jam sandwiches  15 hours back

                                                  Ya know how I got these scars

                                                  • Axess2084
                                                    Axess2084  14 hours back

                                                    If we don't deal with this now, soon, little, uh, Gambol (?) here won't be able to get a, a nickel for his grandma.

                                                • Jim Rogers
                                                  Jim Rogers  15 hours back

                                                  I have a theory: Arthur is the guy who killed Bruce's parents

                                                  • Autumnz _Artz
                                                    Autumnz _Artz  15 hours back

                                                    That actually makes it better not only showing how Arthur behaves but what he experiences showing what his life is like in his eyes can help you understand what happened to him to me its a good idea but thats an opinion

                                                    • Homer J. Simpson
                                                      Homer J. Simpson  15 hours back

                                                      This isnt going to happen. Dc wouldnt cop out like this. Not at all.

                                                      • Amber Powell
                                                        Amber Powell  15 hours back

                                                        You seem to be right. The joker of then and who he wants to be and eventually becomes. How he came to be what he is in Gotham today.

                                                        • DAKOTA REAPER
                                                          DAKOTA REAPER  16 hours back

                                                          You don't want no beef.. *YoU dOnT wanT nO bEeF!!?!?!*

                                                          • ClumsyPlant
                                                            ClumsyPlant  16 hours back

                                                            Well I mean the joker has always kinda just been mentally unstable

                                                            • Derek Cornett
                                                              Derek Cornett  16 hours back

                                                              I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after being locked in a psychiatric unit for 2 weeks and I've avoided "medication" for 9 years... I seem to be doing fine :)

                                                              • Homer J. Simpson
                                                                Homer J. Simpson  15 hours back

                                                                nah bro according to him half your life has to be in your head

                                                            • Skztg
                                                              Skztg  17 hours back

                                                              matpat you’ve done like 30 fnaf episodes we know what hallucinations are

                                                              • RangerAgr
                                                                RangerAgr  17 hours back

                                                                One must imagine Arthur Fleck as happy.

                                                                • random numbers 783
                                                                  random numbers 783  18 hours back

                                                                  Or it could be the other way round because the Joker's origin is to clear it has always been multiple choice

                                                                  • Dahn
                                                                    Dahn  19 hours back

                                                                    Jokeseph Jokestar

                                                                    • Piggy Drawz
                                                                      Piggy Drawz  19 hours back

                                                                      matpat, we better get a it chapter 2 theory

                                                                      • Reverse Fuhrer
                                                                        Reverse Fuhrer  20 hours back

                                                                        This video is bollocks. 🙄

                                                                        • BM PUNK
                                                                          BM PUNK  21 hours back

                                                                          🥴

                                                                          • Leroy Jenkins
                                                                            Leroy Jenkins  23 hours back

                                                                            You got this whole movie twisted bruh. He is going to be tormented by other humans in such horrible, terrifying, and scarring ways. He will lose the attachment ability that normal humans possess. He will start giving 0 fucks and then Viola! Society will have successfully created the most notorious psychopath.

                                                                            • Mateja Ivanov
                                                                              Mateja Ivanov  23 hours back

                                                                              There are great channels who show us more about the movies...
                                                                              And there are channels like this. ( I am angry, you ruined the last 47 movies I wanted to watch )

                                                                              • MarvelousBowski 314
                                                                                MarvelousBowski 314  24 hours back

                                                                                Phoenix's The Joker 0% not the best anti-Villian that we know xd

                                                                                • Nazir Osmani
                                                                                  Nazir Osmani  24 hours back

                                                                                  Do a theory on human combustion from fire force anime

                                                                                  • YgPhaz
                                                                                    YgPhaz  1 days back

                                                                                    Man I hate the theory 'he woke up and it was all a dream' or 'it was all in his head'

                                                                                    • Dyslogix
                                                                                      Dyslogix  1 days back

                                                                                      Arthur.Fleck / Ben.Affleck / A.FFleck / A.Fleck ?

                                                                                      • Marckenz D
                                                                                        Marckenz D  1 days back

                                                                                        I thought that this would be one of the many origin stories the Joker makes up
                                                                                        in his head. One of the multiple choice ones. I definitely enjoyed this video.

                                                                                        • Randy Ciriaco
                                                                                          Randy Ciriaco  1 days back

                                                                                          We are all CLOWNS.

                                                                                          • Dabasaurus Kex
                                                                                            Dabasaurus Kex  1 days back

                                                                                            Playing peekaboo with a kid on the bus is an inappropriate action? Fuck off

                                                                                            • ANOICE_LEMON
                                                                                              ANOICE_LEMON  1 days back

                                                                                              I think that the joker is mad. He is crazy but he laughs and smiles to hide the sadness and craziness behind his smile and switching between happy and crazy faxes makes him go mad. That’s why he jerks around and switches personalities so much and because of all of his insecurities he turned to the joker. He makes super unnerving movements and he is unpredictable which makes him so terrifying it shows what society can do to an outsider. It puts chills down my spine. I love it. The switch from imagination to reality is amazing. you don’t know if he is good or bad