Solar power is finally within reach, but not for long


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  • The Verge
    The Verge   2 months back

    What else should the world do to make renewable energy spread further and faster?

    • Casper
      Casper  2 months back

      Kinetic energy maybe, it'd work on Coastal areas. Maybe put underwater turbines in the oceans under currents.

    • autohmae
      autohmae  2 months back

      @David Armstrong Big improvements in energy storage are definitely one of the best ways to solve all these problems. Because the price of solar and wind just keeps falling already. As do batteries, but it a slower pace.

    • David Armstrong
      David Armstrong  2 months back

      Your going to want those batteries. Trust me...

    • autohmae
      autohmae  2 months back

      @Jarid Gaming Vote only politicians who don't get corporate/special interest funding and eventually solve all problems.

  • William Crawford
    William Crawford  2 weeks back

    Hey guys I’m a solar salesman who works with Sunrun and Vivint, if you are looking to go renewable but don’t have the money to invest in panels, look up a PPA! You can switch to solar power for $0. Simply buy purchasing the power itself from the panels instead of purchasing power from coal plants. And it’s cheaper so you save money immediately!

    • Bugler55
      Bugler55  1 months back

      What kind of fuzzy math is this??? You say panel setup cost 12740, and your old electric bill was 200, then divide to find payoff, that implies zero electricity cost going forward - but then later you state you still need to buy electricity at night, and the net metering doesnt cover full amount -so what are you actually still "Net paying" to the utility? Furthermore, the 100-->200 elec cost is nowhere near realistic if you were paying over 100 in gas - gas is way cheaper than electricity on a btu/$ basis.

      • Brasspineapple Productions

        A 5K system is nothing...

        • Senura Rajapathirana
          Senura Rajapathirana  1 months back

          Title is really misleading.

          • zero15388
            zero15388  2 months back

            go solar

            • Michael Lowe
              Michael Lowe  2 months back

              If it requires a tax credit to be cost effective, then it never was. Its called freeloading. Of course its wealthy people freeloading so we call it responsible investment.

              • chiggedycheckyoself
                chiggedycheckyoself  2 months back

                I don’t get the title of the video. Why isn’t it in reach for long? Even with lower tax credits in the future, overall cost per kWh decreases over time. So long term it will become more affordable for even more people, not fewer people.

                • uncle8jack uncle
                  uncle8jack uncle  2 months back

                  For the cost: you should also estimate the repair cost, it may be more expensive than the power you use in few months if you face any bad weather than damages the panel...

                  • Atheist
                    Atheist  2 months back

                    panels last through hurricane winds, and baseballs going 80mph bounce right off them

                • Patrick Sullivan
                  Patrick Sullivan  2 months back

                  @The Verge - I suggest adding the time value of money to your financial considerations. Muy importante.

                  • Grant Briggs
                    Grant Briggs  2 months back

                    At least one area of the sustainable future we are ahead on here in Australia. If only we can drop the coal fired power stations and start incentives for EVs.

                    • chwaca
                      chwaca  2 months back

                      First of all, I need my own home... ;-)

                      • Yuri Yanu
                        Yuri Yanu  2 months back

                        Good. The "incentives" are just stolen money anyway. If solar is a good idea, let it stand on it's own -without subsidies.

                        • Felipe Carvalho
                          Felipe Carvalho  2 months back

                          Can't recommend The Verge as a proper youtube channel when the people behind it are so petty

                          • Paul Paterson
                            Paul Paterson  2 months back

                            Man that is expensive there. I installed a 6.4kw system here in Australia for $5100 AUD. Looking at doubling my capacity now as we run a home business.

                            • Seth Phillips
                              Seth Phillips  2 months back

                              I work for solar and I can tell you it is not good for the environment lol. Your solar panels will stop producing as effectively after 25 years making you need to buy new ones! Also none of the parts of the solar panel are recyclable!

                              • Nixon Rexzile
                                Nixon Rexzile  2 months back

                                How much does it recoup that cost. This is one way of media bashing Solar Panel by using how long does it take to pay back, instead you could pay the government for rest of your life for cheap, how does that sound? Rest of your life is better than freedom.

                                • Jasonoid
                                  Jasonoid  2 months back

                                  Utah averages $26000 for 5kw of solar.... Still way overpriced! That price is from two separate quotes I got last year.... Doubt it changed much this year.

                                  • jorge pearl
                                    jorge pearl  2 months back

                                    the last question, how climate change is going to change all that? some places will be unhabitable because of heatwaves others because sea rising, maybe the whole planet will be unhabitable

                                    • Dylan Stenzinger
                                      Dylan Stenzinger  2 months back

                                      Don’t forget depreciation of money and
                                      Solar polar

                                      • Gabriel Sanchez
                                        Gabriel Sanchez  2 months back

                                        Conneticut? Typo?

                                        • Black turbine
                                          Black turbine  2 months back

                                          Other countries:
                                          I see that you are putting solar panel's on your house and we are going to help you cover some cost
                                          Usa: YOU ARE STEALING OUR SUNLIGHIT YOU NEED TO PAY FOR IT

                                          • MOHD KAIF
                                            MOHD KAIF  2 months back

                                            solar is future

                                            • Nicholas A.
                                              Nicholas A.  2 months back

                                              yay. 60% of the roofs here in MN

                                              • Sarp Kurkcu
                                                Sarp Kurkcu  2 months back

                                                This title needs "in the USA" at the back. Sorry but, half of your viewers are international.

                                                Oh well...

                                                • w23857980
                                                  w23857980  2 months back

                                                  But what if I want to sell my house in 5 years?

                                                  • Evan Byrnes
                                                    Evan Byrnes  2 months back

                                                    Now is the perfect time to instal solar, you can’t beat the tax credits.

                                                    • David Min
                                                      David Min  2 months back

                                                      The tax credit is going partly because the industry itself is maturing with cost dropping

                                                      • Vincent Robinette
                                                        Vincent Robinette  2 months back

                                                        I'm going with batteries. My calculations show, that the levelized cost per kWh of stored electrical energy is about $.10 per kWh, if every bit of energy was coming from batteries. But, the batteries only have to supply about 14 hours of power during summer, and as high as 18 hours during winter. Thus, since the batteries are not supplying the power during the day,(when the AC is on and you're doing laundry), a battery with a capacity equivalent to a full 24 hours with no other supply, is about the right size, to get the lowest cost per kWh. That calculation seems to work with everything from cheap golf cart batteries, all the way up to the super expensive, but super long lasting Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. The fact that the batteries DON'T supply the house during daylight hours, reduces that to about $.08 per kWh. That's on par with our lowest tier billing, and well below our secondary rate,($.114 per kWh), and our tertiary rate.($.144 per kWh) The extra capacity is good for those cloudy days, where I may need to dip a little deeper into my battery capacity. Even though it seems unnecessary to have that much capacity, bear in mind, that batteries will last longer if you can consistently keep them in the upper half of their state of charge. Reserve capacity is always nice, as well. If you install much more than that, particularly with Lead Acid, you can easily reach the point of diminishing returns, because of calendar life. Lead Acid is best sized, for your highest 24 hour day of draw.
                                                        I don't intend to go off grid, the grid will connect to the system in the form of a large harmonic power factor corrected battery charger. It will by a tertiary source, after my panels,(primary source)and battery bank.(secondary source) As a bonus, should I ever need it, I have a selection of portable generators which can also be used for battery charging, in case there's a snow storm, that knocks out grid power, and completely covers my panels. Those generators will come in handy,(if grid power isn't available) because I will have a "defrost" feature, that will back feed the panels, and melt the snow off by heating them up electrically. I've tested the concept, and it works extremely well, but, it uses an enormous amount of energy.(about half what the panels can produce on an overcast day)If I do it early in the morning, the panels will generate back the power I used by the end of the day, and then some. The big benefit would be the panels being fully exposed the following day, where they can bring the batteries back up to full charge again.

                                                        • Lee Turnbull
                                                          Lee Turnbull  2 months back

                                                          Batteries are worth it. You're obviously looking at premium house batteries and you don't need high performance batteries for house power walls as the C rates are so low.

                                                          • Zach Khan
                                                            Zach Khan  2 months back

                                                            Tesla battery is also subsidiesed by the government. It comes out pretty cheap after incentives.

                                                            • RJ
                                                              RJ  2 months back

                                                              Also electrical costs go up nation wide by 3-6% every year. Some places will see even higher rate jumps due to local/regional growth, and reduced viability of fossil production options.

                                                              • Aleksandr Vysockij
                                                                Aleksandr Vysockij  2 months back

                                                                I disagree about not installing the battery. I have a 4.5 KWh battery. On a real sunny day it charges really fast. But if there’s shade in the middle of the day and you put on a high use appliance, you’re not pulling from the grid. But instead from the battery and the solar panels. Same goes for charging my car on a cloudy day, once the battery is charged I can pull say 400 watts from the battery and 1KW from the solar to maintain the minimum amount of power required to charge the car. So for me solar without a storage battery makes no sense. Especially if you work 5 days a week and nobody is at home during the sunniest time of the day.

                                                                • PhilfreezeCH
                                                                  PhilfreezeCH  2 months back

                                                                  „Good for the planet“

                                                                  Has an electric boiler, one of the most inefficient systems you can get (which is just straight up forbidden in Switzerland for new installations for that reason).

                                                                  • Javier Pan
                                                                    Javier Pan  2 months back

                                                                    what other ones are there?

                                                                • never mind
                                                                  never mind  2 months back

                                                                  SPOILER ALERT: If you are not from USA, this video has nothing to do with you.

                                                                  • grunchi de trap
                                                                    grunchi de trap  2 months back

                                                                    Nuclear power is the only way to safe the planet

                                                                    • Michael Petty
                                                                      Michael Petty  2 months back

                                                                      Should be the first and easiest push to combat climate change. Make solar affordable and offer incentives. Just have to have politicians who are not backed by oil and coal companies.

                                                                      • Jakob Guldager
                                                                        Jakob Guldager  2 months back

                                                                        That's the government you've elected for yourselves. Removing benefits of taking active steps towards sustainability. Well done.

                                                                        • Bugler55
                                                                          Bugler55  1 months back

                                                                          Non-base-load power generation isnt about sustainability, it's about virtue signaling.

                                                                      • Archer V.
                                                                        Archer V.  2 months back

                                                                        termal solar (sanitary) is more rentable.

                                                                        • Tom Hahnl
                                                                          Tom Hahnl  2 months back

                                                                          It will (hopefully) take of after the 2020 election!

                                                                          • Denis Lara
                                                                            Denis Lara  2 months back

                                                                            WAIT did you confused tax credit with tax refund? Tax credit means you wont pay taxes on that amount, it does not mean you get that amount erased... am I wrong?

                                                                            • JaiUneGuruDeja
                                                                              JaiUneGuruDeja  2 months back

                                                                              Let’s all quibble about the cushions in the lifeboats of the Titanic. Everything isn’t measured in dollars and cents. We are cooking ourselves with fossil fuels.

                                                                              • elijah mikle
                                                                                elijah mikle  2 months back

                                                                                Besides new industry, new job market. Money spent, will be money earned. Millions of dollars don't just disappear after it's spent. They put a price in things like it just costs that disappeared from the system. Some where some one gets paid when the government spend money. Why not filter that money from the bottom up.

                                                                            • Hello How Are You
                                                                              Hello How Are You  2 months back

                                                                              But did you make sure to use Allen wrenches and antistatic wristbands?

                                                                              • Vincent Robinette
                                                                                Vincent Robinette  2 months back

                                                                                Are the anti static wrist bands because of all the static you get from the doubters?😜

                                                                            • Military Industrial Museum

                                                                              I bought 7kw of used solar panels for way less from Santan Solar and learned how to make a yard mounted microgrid for pennies on the dollar.

                                                                              • ALLGames&Tech
                                                                                ALLGames&Tech  2 months back

                                                                                My house ain't covered in solar? Hows it within reach bro till you can buy a panel at walmart it ain't within reach.

                                                                              • Ethan Wagner
                                                                                Ethan Wagner  2 months back

                                                                                Soon I’m afraid we’re going to run out of the rare earth minerals to produce these. Hopefully they don’t go up too much in price or we find a more suitable alternative

                                                                                • TheAntiEggroll
                                                                                  TheAntiEggroll  2 months back

                                                                                  Charlie Day really let himself go...

                                                                                  • cairo
                                                                                    cairo  2 months back

                                                                                    Why don't you put "in the US" into the title?