Why Can't I Make Money Off My N.C.A.A. Career? | NYT Opinion

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  • Published: 09 October 2019
  • California’s initiative to allow college athletes to profit from their talent is a boon especially for women and competitors in sports without pro leagues.

    An exuberant top-scoring floor routine by U.C.L.A.’s Katelyn Ohashi went viral this year, making her one of the most famous college gymnasts ever. But N.C.A.A rules prevented Ohashi from making any money from the performance. In this Video Op-Ed, Ohashi argues that college students should be given the ability to earn income from their athletic achievement.

    Last week, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California signed a law to do just that. The Fair Pay to Play Act, would allow college athletes to strike endorsement deals, a move that would transform the entire business model of college sports. Changing the rules would be especially beneficial for women and athletes in sports that lack professional leagues.

    But California’s changes aren’t scheduled to take effect until 2023, and that leaves the N.C.A.A. plenty of time to mount challenges to the law. If the law is upheld, the N.C.A.A. will have to decide whether to penalize California’s universities with fines, or even expel them from the association. For now, California is betting that the huge size of its college system, and its influence in college sports, will make that impossible.

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Comments • 232

  • Turnt Jesus
    Turnt Jesus  7 hours back

    I liked for the booty

    • Jamie Lancaster
      Jamie Lancaster  19 hours back

      I can understand why the NCAA is against this for students who are on full scholarships but most athletes are not on full scholarships because the NCAA restricts the number of Full scholarships. Take women’s field hockey the NCAA only allows 12 Full Scholarships for a average team of 23 girls per team (NCAA 1). Which means most of these girls are only getting partial scholarships. So either up the number of full scholarships to cover an entire sport team or let the players profit from their name!

      • peterk814
        peterk814  2 days back

        You go girl

        • Akitas in the House
          Akitas in the House  2 days back

          Referring to NCAA athletes as "amateurs" is a misnomer. There's nothing "amateur" about college sports. It is a multi-billion dollar industry with rich television contracts, licensing deals and massive gate revenue. The students get little to nothing out of the deal, while NCAA executives get ridiculously rich by holding a gun to the heads of these young athletes.

          • Eric Parker
            Eric Parker  2 days back

            The only candidate with this proposal for years! #yanggang

            • B
              B  2 days back

              I love watching guys play professional catch with their millionaire friends.

              • Yurek Hunt
                Yurek Hunt  2 days back

                What guys? They only play women's sport in America, because the men's sport every other country plays are too tough for Americans...

            • Giancarlo D
              Giancarlo D  3 days back

              Ohhh soo sad...soo...America!the Land of Freedom!ahahah

              • Jose Guadalupe Morales

                I dont even know who you are.

                • LAVIN20
                  LAVIN20  3 days back

                  Yes let's put money in amateur sports and see how the corruptions settles in nicely

                • Santiago Bron
                  Santiago Bron  3 days back

                  She's thicc.

                  • J C
                    J C  3 days back

                    Support Andrew Yang. He believes these athletes should get paid.

                    Yang2020!!!!!!!

                    • Damond Barbee
                      Damond Barbee  3 days back

                      Simone Biles wasn’t to go to UCLA but couldn’t because she would have forfeited millions.

                    • Marius Thefaker
                      Marius Thefaker  3 days back

                      Football and basketball players are going to have the greatest earning potential with these new rules. ping-pong players not so much. they should treat it like waitress tips. all the earnings from every player in every sport goes into a pool and then everyone gets an equal cut... **holds up 'sarcasm' sign**

                      • Buttercookie Cinnamini

                        NAH! ATHLETES GET MILLIONS IF THEY DON'T MAKE DRAFT! If you're THAT GOOD. It will still be there AFTER College...College should guarentee above average wages. Where's their PAY TO GET PAID BILL

                        • single batch23
                          single batch23  4 days back

                          the NYT is a rat infested sinking ship......watching all the employees drown with it will be orgasmic

                          • Final Boy
                            Final Boy  4 days back

                            Add tickets, transportation, hotel and food. Then add in the scholarships, free campus housing, campus job that's just a paycheck. How much more do you want?

                            • I want breakfast
                              I want breakfast  4 days back

                              ​It's your duty as Americans to report illegal aliens to ICE 1-866-DHS-2-ICE

                              • Jose Nieves
                                Jose Nieves  4 days back

                                Thanks for endorsing one of Andrew Yang’s policies.

                                • Simon Berens
                                  Simon Berens  4 days back

                                  Isn't this one of Yang's policies? As usual, the media ignores Yang...

                                  • Nirrrina
                                    Nirrrina  4 days back

                                    I think they should be able to make some money. But only after they take into account the full scholarship to the school first. So if they only earn about 75% of what they are give in a scholarship then no they shouldn't get any money off of it. Or at least only a tiny bit. But if they earn 150% to 200% or more then yes they should get some of that money. After the scholarship is discounted & a little bit more for the schools gamble in taking them on.
                                    There probably isn't that many athletes who would be able to earn that much then. But for those who do it's only fair they get some of it. Otherwise you're heading towards exploiting them.

                                    • Casey S
                                      Casey S  4 days back

                                      Agreed

                                      • Mona Moore
                                        Mona Moore  4 days back

                                        It's possible for student athletes to quit their college league or leave their school if they want to pursue a professional career. The NCAA is a mess, so it seems reasonable to walk away if you already have a career waiting for you.

                                        • Kathy Erickson
                                          Kathy Erickson  4 days back

                                          Big thank you for speaking up! Your comment about not being able to join some professional team after graduation really hit home. It would be amazing for you and others participating in NCAA sports to be able to earn money that could potentially be put towards a future AFTER college.

                                          • brett mccarley
                                            brett mccarley  4 days back

                                            Welp looks like California is gonna hold the next few championships, sure does make recruiting easier when your throwing money at people

                                            • Shamrock
                                              Shamrock  4 days back

                                              I wouldn't be surprised if the college's (companies) decide to pay them but remove the scholarships associated with them so that the value of getting paid is null. However maybe they students basically become employees at that time and should be given healthcare and maybe even unionize 🤔

                                            • john gler
                                              john gler  4 days back

                                              they profit what about the full ride scholarship that is up to 200k in free money

                                              • Bad Xerge
                                                Bad Xerge  5 days back

                                                If the student aren't allowed to profit, then neither should the colleges or the NCAA.

                                                • David Boson
                                                  David Boson  5 days back

                                                  Sport is a business. The greater the profit the greater the business. Please stop saying that business is a Sport.

                                                  • JOE CAPOZZIELLO
                                                    JOE CAPOZZIELLO  5 days back

                                                    Profit organization should work one way if you are making money off of somebody and their talents are making profits for everyone else around the one person making the publicity on their talents I think it's a crazy assumption to say that the individual shouldn't received any monies whatsoever

                                                    • Carlitos
                                                      Carlitos  5 days back

                                                      How about this. I think most people would agree that having athletes get compensated for being an athlete at a school of higher education isn't in the best interest of the student. At the same time, I think schools shouldn't profit the way they do by exploiting these athletes. How about the school take in 25% of the total profit (what they would get today). 5% could go towards the athletes who performed at the school, but the money goes into a retirement fund (that retirement fund is forfeited if they go professional and make X amount of money as a professional athlete. The remaining 70% could go back into athletic development programs in the pre-teen/teenager/ high school level, including preventive care of sports injuries. I don't want kids thinking "I want to go to college because they're going to pay me", nor do I want colleges to profit they way they currently have off these athletes.

                                                    • 1350
                                                      1350  5 days back

                                                      Cool. Make all students compete for NCAA money based on who wants to spectate. Nobodies like this won't get any. Men's football and basketball will.

                                                      • Justin
                                                        Justin  5 days back

                                                        🤸🏻‍♀️💸

                                                        • bigmo256
                                                          bigmo256  5 days back

                                                          go get it flippy spinny girl

                                                          • Eric Martin
                                                            Eric Martin  5 days back

                                                            Student Athletes are already paid. everyone forgets the free ride through Collage they receive and the benefits of such a degree in life. Katelyn Ohashi got a degree from UCLA... let that sink in. $42k a year in just Tuition Fees alone to attend UCLA plus costs of housing and eating on campus are covered. full scholarships provide funding for extra costs of college above and beyond tuition and fees and room and board. This includes the costs of books, travel expenses, health insurance (which is required on many college campuses), and supplies (computer, notebooks, pens, for example). full scholarships also include a work/study program for the student to earn extra cash for personal expenses.

                                                            • lightsouthaha
                                                              lightsouthaha  5 days back

                                                              The US has roads that are falling apart across the country, the airports are old, the hospitals that had to be privatized have gotten far worse. We honestly need high speed metros to connect American cities. The sea level will rise within the next 100 years and our weather gets more extreme every year.

                                                              Pro athletes are already grossly overpaid compared to people that are needed in society like scientists and teachers, yet a multi-millionaire that is overpaid for what he does has started this trend in the wrong direction. I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for college athletes because "Murika" loves sports but the US has a lot bigger fish to fry.

                                                              In ancient Rome stupid poor and rich people alike sat and watched sporting events in their coliseums, too distracted to notice their empire crumbling and collapsing all around them. It's time to put more money into education for children in public schools and arts for them as well. Sports will always be around in this country.

                                                              We are easily the dumbest "developed" country in the world, education-wise. Academics waste money on college every year and by the time they get out they will be an overeducated retail employee, doing a job they could have done in high school. Like I said, there are far bigger problems, not even mentioning countries with real issues .

                                                              • Chris P
                                                                Chris P  5 days back

                                                                Also, before you start college trademark your likeness.

                                                                • Chris P
                                                                  Chris P  5 days back

                                                                  Because colleges are GREEDY! How else are they going to pay the 6 figure salaries of the do nothing professors.

                                                                  • mojoe Lindell
                                                                    mojoe Lindell  5 days back

                                                                    She's 100% correct. I love her.

                                                                    • Aries Radke#6
                                                                      Aries Radke#6  5 days back

                                                                      mojoe Lindell she is 50% correct. She would be 100% but for her to say mainly women deserve to be paid is wrong.
                                                                      That me me me attitude is wrong. This is why women didn’t get voter rights back then because they were fighting against black votes.

                                                                  • ThePsychopompos1
                                                                    ThePsychopompos1  5 days back

                                                                    Ok and based on your 4% viewership... here’s your ten bucks. Now go away.

                                                                    • LaughTooHard
                                                                      LaughTooHard  5 days back

                                                                      I was an NCAA athlete and I don't believe any college person should be paid. You don't deserve to be paid. You're in college. You knew what you were signing up for.

                                                                      • LaughTooHard
                                                                        LaughTooHard  5 days back

                                                                        My sport wasn't football. I was fairly good at what I did and had a tryout with the pro's. I even got a paycheck.

                                                                      • LaughTooHard
                                                                        LaughTooHard  5 days back

                                                                        We just disagree. When I was in college, many moons ago, there was never conversation of pay for play, or compensation for an image. If you're a college athlete you have to know your image will be used. Mine was. I didn't care. I didn't want to be compensated. You're in college. You have to expect the school will use your image to advertise whatever your sport may be.

                                                                      • Daryl Stovall
                                                                        Daryl Stovall  5 days back

                                                                        @ LaughTooHard
                                                                        Yeah, whatever, Tim Tebow.

                                                                      • Lovecat Productions
                                                                        Lovecat Productions  5 days back

                                                                        So if I was a CA and I want to make money from my image, why shouldn't I? Anyone who isn't a CA can make money off their likeness. Its not like the schools paying them.

                                                                    • Christian
                                                                      Christian  5 days back

                                                                      She can make money.......join the circus!

                                                                      • Donkey Farm
                                                                        Donkey Farm  5 days back

                                                                        NCAA, JUST ANOTHER DEMOCRAT CORRUPT CROOKED ORGANIZATION!!! LET THE KIDS HAVE THEIR MONEY!!! IF THEY MAKE OVER "X" AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN COLLEGE COST'S???

                                                                        • The Man
                                                                          The Man  5 days back

                                                                          Not If you get a free ride in college, Room, board, Books, And the actual costs to attend class, How much does All that come up to, That She and these other athletes get for Free

                                                                          • ROWEBOT
                                                                            ROWEBOT  5 days back

                                                                            I mean, the cost of a degree does not equal the cost of 4 or 5 years of brain injury playing college football. Compensation should be required.

                                                                            • ROWEBOT
                                                                              ROWEBOT  5 days back

                                                                              @Rikki I dont think that is a realistic way to make any progress. Better to manage reality than hope for an idealistic fantasy. The kids love to play and the fans love to watch. If a worker is not being paid the solution is not to tell them to stop working, the solution is to tell the employer to start paying.

                                                                            • Rikki
                                                                              Rikki  5 days back

                                                                              Or maybe we shouldn't encourage athletes to play a sport that causes brain damage?

                                                                          • Shocke89
                                                                            Shocke89  5 days back

                                                                            Men and women lay down thier lives everyday for barely above min wage.. yet people who get free rides thru college want to now be paid for thier time in college... you get a college education or the chance of having one just for participating in sports... look I love Kaitlyn as a athelete... but she needs to understand that she is already being paid for her atheltic ability.... furthermore this was not new just wehn she started participating.. it's been around a long time... why do you think most black boys spend those hours on the court? it's not for the love of the game.. it's for the future... cause they know it is a chance to not have to lay down thier life. Yes folks...black communities teach thier children to pratice sports just so they can get a scholarship instead of teaching then to study in school and make good grades.

                                                                            • Mona Moore
                                                                              Mona Moore  4 days back

                                                                              That's all well and good for most athletes, but the school often gets paid thousands if not millions more in ticket sales, donations, licensing, etc. than what they give to the student in scholarships--particularly if they have a celebrity athlete. It's ridiculous that the school is allowed to profit hugely off of these hardworking students, and the students get a hugely disproportionate return.

                                                                          • friend
                                                                            friend  5 days back

                                                                            I guess a 4 year scholarship isn't what it used to be? LOL
                                                                            Then after graduating if you're not pro that means you have to become a regular citizen and earn a wage like everyone else with a degree from college???
                                                                            Don't get me wrong. I believe that College athletes should earn a wage while competing because of the time and Devotion to their sport doesn't allow them the ability to get a job to support themselves. But giving these kids endorsements while in college I think it's very wrong.

                                                                            • Dreamy
                                                                              Dreamy  5 days back

                                                                              She deserves to get paid. Look at those guns. End the ncaa

                                                                              • Rock Metal
                                                                                Rock Metal  5 days back

                                                                                Beautiful woman, very smart, and a perfect body. Good for you for speaking on this.
                                                                                NCAA is like Socialism. They want to make all decisions for you as if they own you