Film Theory: Rey is the Next Darth Vader! (Star Wars Episode 9 The Rise of Skywalker)

  • Published: 17 August 2019
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    Since the trailer release of Star Wars Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker, my theory brain has been FULL of ideas! Today I want to focus on the big reveal of the trailer - Palpatine is BACK... or is he? You see, I think there's a connection between the Emperor and our young hero, Rey. Is this the proof we need to say that Rey is destined for the Dark Side? Watch to find out!

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  • Chibi dragon
    Chibi dragon  4 weeks back

    Once again film theories ideas are better then the future cannon films

    • Owen Downey
      Owen Downey  1 days back

      Thing is though, he got this theory right

    • meldme
      meldme  2 days back

      Rey will probably be the daughter of Luke Skywalker and Palpatine’s grandaughter. Having cut himself off from the Force would explain Luke not knowing, plus the Palpy gene might have blocked both Luke and Rey from discovering their lineage, via some Sith dark-side hairy-scary shenanigans.

      Luke, at some point in this movie canon, must have met someone, and Palpatine’s (unaware of her own lineage) daughter is the most likely produced a child. A Palpawalker or Skypatine Rey would enable to explain away the Mary-Sue aspect of Rey’s character. Her ‘nobody’ parents had probably adopted her, for either protective or fearful reasons. Luke would not have known if Sith forces were at work, and only Palpatine (and a few other nefarious characters may be aware. I am pretty sure that Rey is the product of Skywalker and a Palpatine, I would bet ten dollars of anyone’s money on it.

    • Foxy
      Foxy  5 days back

      not his idea

  • natalie Moore
    natalie Moore  4 hours back

    Wow now I can't wait to see this also so if rey gose evil will "Ben" aka kylo stay bad and the ending will be cheesey due to the fact that the good will win or will luke reach in from the "grave" and help Ray but the bad side will win ?

    • Jaxon Child
      Jaxon Child  4 hours back

      well matpat NEVER GIVE UP ON THIS

      • Tylor K
        Tylor K  5 hours back

        This is Rey's last movie as they said ;) Because her name would no longer be Rey... Possibly

        • oh yeah
          oh yeah  7 hours back

          I dont know but i really want anakin and palpatine both come back and reys with plapatine and kylo with anakin and its good vs evil

          • Simon Parks
            Simon Parks  7 hours back

            I was just pondering a very similar idea to this just this afternoon.. weird

            • Max Zachry
              Max Zachry  7 hours back


              • Ivory Poet
                Ivory Poet  8 hours back

                Here is a fact that most dont want to acknowledge. Science recently released a paper showing our IQs are dropping at an alarming rate.

                We have never had SJWs, folks who say they are fans of Star Wars but accept a movie like Last Jedi and dont care about the poor writing. We have also never had such a “reboot” and “remake” movie industry which is a result of the leftists taking over schools and blackballing conservative professors so they get indoctrinated instead of taught.

                Weve always had a problem with illegal aliens taking advantage of our nation of laws until the left is suddenly pro illegal (wanting to automatically give them citizenship since they mostly vote democrat. A government who robs peter to pay paul, will always have the support of paul).

                So this all proves just how dumb we are getting. Thinking abnormal things are now normal, etc etc. And our IQs are dropping.

                so the dumber we get, the more stupid idealogies those same people think is The Last Jedi being a good movie...or any other example i have given above.

                So keep getting dumber and accepting dumb things. You are proving that science is on to something.

                • Garth Palmer
                  Garth Palmer  8 hours back

                  this is more or less the leading theory and would be the best payoff.

                  but knowing Kathleen Kennedy, Rey will probably still end up being the big hero in the end, because feminism.

                  • Spider Web
                    Spider Web  8 hours back

                    Force Awakens is better than Last Jedi

                    • Dylan Persaud
                      Dylan Persaud  9 hours back

                      Darth Rey Baebae

                      • carlosfer2201
                        carlosfer2201  11 hours back

                        I like how this came out just after the final trainer for Ep9, but obviously you didn't have time to take it into account...and Rey is clearly pictured as a dark side character in there, helping your theory. It could easily be a crappy dream sequence or someone's vision or whatever though.

                        • Jimmy McJimFace
                          Jimmy McJimFace  12 hours back

                          Am i the only one who heard you say ranticide, as in murder by rant, instead of rant aside?

                          • Michael J Caboose
                            Michael J Caboose  9 hours back

                            ranticide would mean murdering (or simply killing) a rant - not murder by rant.

                        • Mechaghostman2
                          Mechaghostman2  13 hours back

                          haha You've not been right a single time with these man, just give up.

                          • Robert Corneby
                            Robert Corneby  14 hours back

                            Who cares anymore

                            • Cyborg1337
                              Cyborg1337  14 hours back

                              Retarded video. Star wars is dead and to make a video about a corrupted and now dead film series is a waste of time.

                              • Kathryn Lroh
                                Kathryn Lroh  14 hours back

                                They’ll never turn Rey into a villain. Even though it would be awesome, it would destroy the Mary Sue/perfect heroine inspiration for young girls agenda.

                                • Michael J Caboose
                                  Michael J Caboose  7 hours back

                                  People always overthink this.

                                  disney has a single agenda that can be summed up with less than a word - less than a symbol - just one character will do the job,


                              • Gunforce55
                                Gunforce55  16 hours back

                                No way is Rey Palpatines daughter or grand daughter. He does not have a wife. It said rise of a Skywalker. Rey had a vision when she touched lukes fathers lightsaber, she does not know her true parentage, and she has a link to Kylo Ren which makes her family. That image of her using a red doublebladed lightsaber could just be a vision like the one Luke had on dagobah or a premenition of the possible future like the one anakin had in episode 3. If Rey is not the skywalker rising than who is?

                                • Ib Ali
                                  Ib Ali  21 hours back

                                  “Let the past die”. Sees him talking to something from the past. Ohhhh WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                  • Oh Yea yeah
                                    Oh Yea yeah  23 hours back

                                    Who is just watching this and not understanding what the hell are they talking about

                                    • Ssundee Prime
                                      Ssundee Prime  1 days back

                                      @matpat what about Cal kestis being Rey’s father

                                      • Lexi Pryde
                                        Lexi Pryde  1 days back

                                        i could care less about any of the star wars made after the pq's - i measure a person by their actions so all this feminist crap pisses me off it makes us all look like minipulitive weak lyng pieces of s#@! - they diddnt write the characters well and mary sue pushed rey to be something from nothing while denegrating everything b4 her - made every man a pathetic horn ball without a brain showed movies with no cohiesive story just political crap and expect us to pay to be brain washed/talked down to /victim card waving - _ - nope im with the rest of the normal people im not payng for it .

                                        • Peter69North
                                          Peter69North  1 days back

                                          I like this theory. Disney - Please proceed.

                                          • Cashagon
                                            Cashagon  1 days back

                                            Didn't Star Wars Theory do some videos on the "Rey is a clone made by Palpatine" theory?

                                            • jaquescabs
                                              jaquescabs  1 days back

                                              nahh palpatine's laugh is just kylo's ringtone

                                              • Petaboii - Drums
                                                Petaboii - Drums  1 days back

                                                I definitely believe this, as it is very believable. However, the two figures in the cave look like Han and Chewie (right to left). Maybe she wants to know who raised her and dropped her on Jakku, not who actually birthed her. Maybe Han and Chewie intended to find and raise her for a few years and then dropped her on Jakku? It would make sense.

                                                • Zachery Barrett
                                                  Zachery Barrett  2 days back


                                                  • OctoSenpai
                                                    OctoSenpai  2 days back

                                                    So has anyone else see the new movie?

                                                    • suny123boy1
                                                      suny123boy1  2 days back

                                                      The only way, and I mean THE ONLY WAY these recent movies can be redeemed is if Rey full fledged turns to the dark side and embraces it. Also possibly kills Finn, and other characters.

                                                      • GODOFAWSOMENESS1
                                                        GODOFAWSOMENESS1  2 days back

                                                        1:10 so that is what I found.

                                                        • Michael Drew
                                                          Michael Drew  2 days back

                                                          Disney don't have the balls to make Rey the bad guy

                                                          • WORLD'S BEST
                                                            WORLD'S BEST  2 days back

                                                            Irrelevant. Rey turns evil because that's the story.

                                                        • Lucas Ryan
                                                          Lucas Ryan  2 days back

                                                          Your faith in the next movie, misplaced maybe. As is your faith in the Disney-owned Star Wars! *ignites light saber*

                                                          • RPG Sprenkel Demon
                                                            RPG Sprenkel Demon  2 days back

                                                            Um this whole theory’s premise is built on Palestine being s the apprentice of the creator of life there’s either some lore I’m missing or this is a sttreetchhhh

                                                            Oh and that the time jump between Palestine dying and Rae being born nothing serious

                                                            • Litheran
                                                              Litheran  2 days back

                                                              My niece comes up with some interesting excuses for that poop smell that seems to emanate from her diaper; but she knows and I know that there's a whole big bad batch of business stinking up the place. The problem is she can't accept responsibility for her shit, and neither can disney.

                                                            • Introverted Cafe
                                                              Introverted Cafe  2 days back

                                                              Wait, wasn't there a theory that Anakin also was probably made by Palpatine????

                                                              • fmellark
                                                                fmellark  2 days back

                                                                Damn, this would be awesome!

                                                                • Leonor De La Garza
                                                                  Leonor De La Garza  2 days back

                                                                  Rey has a red lightsaber

                                                                  • Leonor De La Garza
                                                                    Leonor De La Garza  2 days back

                                                                    What about star wars d23

                                                                    • Harrison Gibson
                                                                      Harrison Gibson  2 days back

                                                                      "Based on canon lore, solid narrative beats seeded in past movies and even some necessary business decision's on the part of Disney. Then again we've seen how much the last movie cared about that stuff."

                                                                      -- Oh boy! That's not a promising starting point. If that's reflective of your current understanding of Star Wars then I think you're gonna get to reuse that opening about being wrong again. Idk where to even start with that statement.

                                                                      First TLJ doesn't break existing canon lore and in fact builds on some of it. Example #1, Luke's force projection is the MOST Jedi solution to saving the resistance possible... Non-violence and self-sacrifice. (There's easy connection between force ghosts and force projection. It's like force ghost while alive. But no let's just never expand the story and canon, come on man.) Example #2, Kylo and Rey having their force talks is a logical extension from how Luke and Vader, and Luke and Leia communicate in Empire.

                                                                      Next, it DIRECTLY picks up the narrative beats from TFA, I mean it starts like 5 seconds after TFA ends. Luke in exile on the island, Kylo injured and returning to Snoke, the Resistance on the run from the First Order. Kylo directly dealing with the legacy of Darth Vader, Luke and Leia dealing with the legacy of Vader via Kylo. Rey seeking a home and identity that she doesn't have. Finn learning how to care for others and be part of a real team/family. I mean, how much more continuity do you want?

                                                                      Lastly they have a villain, Kylo Ren. He literally tries to kill Luke and is the leader of the main villainous faction. Sure he's not Vader or the Emperor, but he's clearly a villain.

                                                                      Also just a PSA that's already been confirmed as not Jakku, it's a planet called Pasaana.

                                                                      Gotta do that research baby!

                                                                      • Vivian Goerss
                                                                        Vivian Goerss  2 days back

                                                                        I love the theory! But sadly, Star Wars showed Rey as evil, which almost guarantees the dark Rey scene was probably just a force dream, where Palpetine is trying to turn her.
                                                                        sorry if I spelled anything wrong or ruined the theory, I love your channel!

                                                                        • Billy Hendrix
                                                                          Billy Hendrix  2 days back

                                                                          The second trailer just gave that away, but good job anyway, I love your videos

                                                                          • StreetDogSteve
                                                                            StreetDogSteve  3 days back

                                                                            I rewatched the last jedi last night... I doubt there'll be anything with depth in the next installment.

                                                                            • Stacey Thieme
                                                                              Stacey Thieme  3 days back

                                                                              It's not a nineology, lol. 9 movies is called a Triple Trilogy.

                                                                              • Wade
                                                                                Wade  3 days back

                                                                                Idk about any of this, just know that Palpatine needs to moisturize.

                                                                                • Warcraftgamingpro 33
                                                                                  Warcraftgamingpro 33  3 days back

                                                                                  Looks who’s right

                                                                                  • Zonester05
                                                                                    Zonester05  3 days back

                                                                                    How about we make it all a dream in Luke’s head, that will fix it then they can make new movies with a better director who directs ALL 3 so any characters arks or plot points aren’t immediately forgotten and scrapped.

                                                                                    • lolznoob1
                                                                                      lolznoob1  3 days back

                                                                                      are you a fan of dbza by chance?

                                                                                      • Igor Ziobroń
                                                                                        Igor Ziobroń  3 days back

                                                                                        "DARHTPLAKES THE WISE"